A message to all Israelis , specially people of the south

[India4Israel]

Israel be strong and focused! You are in my thoughts constantly. Don't give an inch to the Islamic enemy.

[Paparock]

If you study the words that come from the mouts of the leaders of Hamas and from the leaders of the Palestinians their plans and ideas are clear. Watch tonight on FOX news channel the son of one of the founding members of HAMAS.

You use excuses while I know the animals. Theory is nice until you try to negotiate with those that do not care about anything but killing you and everyone in your family for Allah.

Oh, I have been to many universities, but head knowledge will not save you from such people as these. These types you pray that their eyes be opened as as the son of the HAMAS leader below was but when they come you put them down like you would a mad dog beacause they don't negotiate when they come; they come to kill, maim, and destroy because that is all they know. Listen to what this man says tonight because he grew up to adulthood in HAMAS. His former friends and Al-Qaeda have sworn death on him for leaving Islam and speaking out. Would you be so brave?


http://www.palestinecenter.org/cpap/...s/charter.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hamas
http://avalon.law.yale.edu/subject_menus/mideast.asp
http://middleeast.about.com/od/pales.../me080106b.htm

Hamas in its own words
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/ar...TICLE_ID=48676

http://www.ireport.com/docs/DOC-171555
http://www.nefafoundation.org/miscel...ter_trial2.pdf
http://www.camera.org/index.asp?x_co...x_article=1075

[Paparock]

What? You mean Muslims slaughter other Muslims counter to the word of Muhhamad? Then they both are not following Muhhamad and are out of faith and according to the word of Muhammad must be put to death by all true believers of Islam.

In a very famous declaration, Muhammad defines three cases in which a Muslim must be killed:

"The blood of the Muslim is not lawful [to be shed] except in three cases: Infidelity after faith, adultery after marriage, and killing a soul without any right."

What is important to us here is his phrase "Infidelity after faith." If you ask me who claimed that Muhammad said this, I will respond: All former and contemporary scholars, without exception, attest to that.

When 'Uthman Ibn 'Affan, the third caliph and the husband of Ruqayya the daughter of Muhammad, was besieged by some famous Muslim companions of the apostle, he reminded them of Muhammad's sayings and asked them: "For which of these three reasons do you intend to kill me?" and "Am I not the prince of believers?" Yet they killed him. Among those who were involved in his assassination were Muhammad Ibn Abu Bakr El Seddik and 'Ammar Ibn Yasir. (Refer to the Chronicle of al-Tabari Vol. 2, p. 669, and all the books of the Islamic history such as the "Chronicle of the Caliphs" by the as-Suyuti and Ibn Kathir).
This statement is also recorded in the following:

° Sahih of Muslim Vol. I, p. 267 (the interpretation of Nawawi).
° Shafi'i, "The Ordinances of the Qur'an", part 2, p. 46.
° Ibn Hazm, part 11, Vol. 8, p. 377 and restated also on p. 400.
° The Sheikh Shaltute in his famous book, "Islam: a Dogma and a Law", p. 322.
° Dr. Afifi 'Abdul-Fattah, in his widespread book, "The Spirit of the Islamic Religion", p. 408.

How Do Muslims Justify Killing Apostates?
The assassination of an apostate (one who turns away from his faith) is considered to be a breach of freedom of religious belief as well as an obvious contradiction of the International Declaration of Human Rights (item 18) which most of the Arab countries have signed. What do contemporary Muslim scholars say about this serious matter?

The scholars of Kuwait and Qatar dealt with this question. The weekly Kuwaiti Magazine, "The Islamic Society" in its issue of April 17,1984, p. 26 said:

"Somebody may say: ‘Do you want to deny freedom to people?' We say to him: ‘If what is meant by freedom is to disbelieve in God's religion, or the freedom of infidelity and apostasy, then that freedom is abolished and we do not recognize it; we even call for its eradication, and we strive to oppress it. We declare that publicly and in daylight"' (Quoted from Dr. Taha Jabir's article).

[SonKev]

Originally Posted by pal4life

A message to Israel :

To all of you who think that the attacks on Gaza are going to stop the Resistance from firing rockets , I assure you that is not going to happen .

The attacks are only making the Palestinian resistance stronger , Hamas is getting stronger and stronger everyday , it's popularity ratings are higher than ever .

The rockets will not stop , so you either leave or die !

Our fighters are waiting for your land invasion , if that happens , you'll know what it's like to fight someone who's goal is to die.

The IDF soldiers just want to finish this and go home , but Hamas fighters leave their homes knowing they're going to die , and they're happy about it .

Killing so many people in Gaza is pointless , because we don't fear death !
Death is something we wish for.

We will continue to fire rockets , and we will keep you hiding underground .



To the Administration : please do not delete this topic , it's here to make things clear for you .

You're right, they do leave there homes knowing they are going to die, but I can tell you; they ARE afraid.

[MedicineMan]

Originally Posted by Adrian Wainer

Glad to see you got the Confederate flag there, but why have you got the Union Flag in the international sign of distress configuration?



Best and Warm Regards
Adrian Wainer

That's not a "Confederate" flag, it's the flag of the sovreign State of Mississippi.
Designed by a black fellow, adopted, and then made permanent by a 80% vote of the Citizens of this MAJORITY BLACK State.

As to the protest.......

You mean you missed our election and the results of it???
(no, not the "black" thing cause that doesn't matter)

We have a President that won't "salute" the flag during the National Anthem, even when on stage in front of thousands.

Joe "I wrote the assault weapons ban and hate all gun owners" Biden is the Vice President.

Hitlery "we're gonna take your freedoms for your own good" Klinton is to be Secretary of State.

A "civil war" between the elitists and the "fly over states" is eminent. Racing like a runaway train towards us.
Why do you think ALL the "evil assault weapons", High capacity magazines, and ammunition has been SOLD OUT since November???

We now have spent 1 BILLION Dollars to "bail out" big business while the common Citizens are losing their homes, jobs, and going broke.

This Country is "IN" a DEPRESSION.
Noone is really stupid enough to buy the media spread government lies, it is what it is.

There is a movement to convene a Constitutional Convention so they can strip the RIGHTS out of that document active and making headway as we type.

Several States have already "pre-voted" to secede from the union of states, and more are joining them.

The supreme court ruled that it is NOT the responsibility of the police to protect us from harm, but, still waffles on whether we have individual right to own firearms to protect ourselves.

We are spending Trillions of dollars to wage a war in two countries and build PERMANENT bases there, but when drug smugglers fire on our border patrol the officers get jailed for shooting back.

If you are a pervert, you get all the protection of the law and free reign to spread your vileness at will.
But if you are a Christian, (or jew), your beliefs are deemed "evil" and not allowed in public places, on money, or in schools.

So I ask you,
Is this not the most pristine picture of DISTRESS one could possibly see????

[MedicineMan]

Since it's all some folks seem to be able to focus on with their brainwashed but pale sense of "patriotism", I will change it.

But this is as far as I will go.

[Kafui]

Originally Posted by pal4life

A message to Israel :

To all of you who think that the attacks on Gaza are going to stop the Resistance from firing rockets , I assure you that is not going to happen .

The attacks are only making the Palestinian resistance stronger , Hamas is getting stronger and stronger everyday , it's popularity ratings are higher than ever .

The rockets will not stop , so you either leave or die !

Our fighters are waiting for your land invasion , if that happens , you'll know what it's like to fight someone who's goal is to die.

The IDF soldiers just want to finish this and go home , but Hamas fighters leave their homes knowing they're going to die , and they're happy about it .

Killing so many people in Gaza is pointless , because we don't fear death !
Death is something we wish for.

We will continue to fire rockets , and we will keep you hiding underground .



To the Administration : please do not delete this topic , it's here to make things clear for you .

Hamas should understand that they cannot win any war with the IDF. Why can`t they make their head round this and stop firing the rockets into Israel? So far they`ve lost nearly 480 of their citizen and are still believing they could take the IDF on. I can`t see them hanging on for long.

And to the hypocrite demonstrators around the world,I say to you to take your eyes off the ground and see the bigger picture as to why Israel is dragged into this situation again. I wonder where these demonstrators were when the rockets was being fired into Israel. In as much as I regret the lost of life on both sides,I lay the blame on the doorsteps of the leaders of Hamas and their sponsors Hezbollah and Iran.

Let there be peace.

[garylen]

to the people of israel be strong and stay as one in the coming months; your cause is just and you are proper people. here in northern ireland we have suffered just like you; but god and justice will be on your side as your forces strive for the peace you deserve; the dogs that is hamas will run and hide in the face of your heros; and you must be patient as they hunt them down and give them exactly what they deserve. be strong for your forces and support them untill their work is done. god bless and keep them safe. from your friends here in ulster

[BubakBubak]

I wish you good luck, to all of you in Israel! Be strong in upcoming days and you will be successful!

God speed, from Czech Republic!

[ishmael]

To muslims supporting hamas, it is wrong to support murder, I do not condem soldiers of any nation even if they are my enemy, they go to war as I did knowing you maybe killed by an enemy soldier. However when one chooses to fight innocent women children, and old people they no longer deserve mercy or admiration. 6000 plus rockets targeted at non military targets in Israel is enough. Do not stain islam by supporting criminals and murderers in name of Allah(MM). If hamas chosses to fight like men in the coming days I admire them, but if they choose to hide behind children and target the weak, then I pray for a speedy judgement day for them.

[desertscout]

One of the first casualties of war is truth. Is the below the truth???

ISRAEL CARNAGE CIVILIANS CHILDREN GAZA

http://muslimtv.magnify.net/video/IS...VILIANS-CHILDR


Or is this what really happened???

Raw; (2005) Hamas Weapons Parade Accident Kills 15, including kids

Hamas parades weapons in Gaza, they blow up, killing 15, including kids
By israelinsider staff and partners September 23, 2005



Dead and wounded at the Hamas rally.

Parading homemade weapons can be dangerous. (AP)

A pickup truck carrying masked militants blew up at a Hamas rally on Friday, killing at least 15 Palestinians and wounding 80, The PA Interior Ministry confirmed

Witnesses said the truck carried homemade weapons, and Palestinian security officials said the blast apparently was caused by the mishandling of weapons. Hamas blamed Israel, saying Israeli aircraft flew overhead during the rally. Israel denied it was involved.

Seven of the wounded were in serious condition, hospital doctors said.

The rally was held in the Jebaliya refugee camp. Witnesses said participants crowded around the pickup truck carrying militants when the explosion went off. The witnesses said the truck carried homemade weapons.

One man, who only gave his first name, Hussam, said he helped pull three men out of the pickup, two dead and one man who was still alive, but had a leg severed. The side of the pickup was charred.

The witness said he saw five dead children nearby. Dozens of children were wounded in the blast. The Hamas military wing, Izzedine al Qassam, is popular with youngsters. When the pickup with the gunmen arrived at the rally, many children crowded around the vehicle.

After the blast, men carried bloody body parts and lifeless bodies wrapped in blankets to nearby cars.

The dead and wounded were taken to nearby hospitals. Doctors initally said they had a total of 56 wounded at two hospitals, but Hamas later revised the figure to 45 wounded. The toll was later revised upward again on Saturday, to 140.

At Shifa, doctors had to treat patients on the floor of the emergency room because they ran out of beds. Masked Hamas men wheeled in casualties, including children.




Same scenes, two different versions.

[Paddy Downunder]

Originally Posted by ishmael

To muslims supporting hamas, it is wrong to support murder, I do not condem soldiers of any nation even if they are my enemy, they go to war as I did knowing you maybe killed by an enemy soldier. However when one chooses to fight innocent women children, and old people they no longer deserve mercy or admiration. 6000 plus rockets targeted at non military targets in Israel is enough. Do not stain islam by supporting criminals and murderers in name of Allah(MM). If hamas chosses to fight like men in the coming days I admire them, but if they choose to hide behind children and target the weak, then I pray for a speedy judgement day for them.

This is highly refreshing, Ishmael. Thank you for posting.

In regards to Hamas' lies about casualties, remember Hamas blowing up an apartment building in Gaza whilst playing with explosives, killing 7 people including a baby? It was reported 13th June 08 by the BBC (sorry I can't post links as a new poster). Hamas sent 20 rockets into southern Israel for their blunder.

There is no limit to what Hamas will blame Israel for. The problem is, the vultures in the mainstream media will jump on it uncritically.

Israel, don't get too cocky on this ground assault. Remember after the six day war, Yom Kippur pushed Israel to the brink. It was a wakeup call. I pray that G-d will protect you and the brave soldiers of the IDF, don't forget He who is looking after His beloved!

[ishmael]

Why did you change your Flag? Medicine Man?

[desertscout]

Originally Posted by Jeancarl

... why waisting your time here instead of going to Gaza and be a Martyr? ...

With the tangos it always seems to be women and children first.







(Ismael Mohamad, UPI, December 2002):
"A Palestinian child holds a gun and hand grenade during a rally commemorating the death of fellow Palestinians in the Gaza Strip on April 23, 2002."



Here’s a video showing how the palestinians use children as human shields and have them perpetrate terrorist acts themselves.

Keep these images in mind next time you hear of a palestinian child being killed.
http://www.israellycool.com/2008/03/...buse/#comments

[mgrasek100]

Originally Posted by heymarky

Go suck a pig's willy

Hello, i am new here.
How are you Guys ?

[ishmael]

To moderator why are some peoples banned?

[mgrasek100]

Make Peace with your Neighbours !

Try it.
I think if Palestines get more Money the most get more peace.

[Paparock]

Originally Posted by mgrasek100

Make Peace with your Neighbours !

Try it.
I think if Palestines get more Money the most get more peace.

It is not a matter of Israel's willingness to make Peace with its' neigbors. It is a case of some of Israel's neighbors only being willing to accept Israels total destruction and the death of every last Jew in Israel. That makes Peace rather difficult.

[johnboy]

Originally Posted by ishmael

To moderator why are some peoples banned?

I might not be a Moderator but I think I can speak for all the forums staff
the answer is very simple Don't Break the Forums Terms and Conditions
If a member is banned its for a good reason
I will not enter into a discussion as to why a member is banned.

[Nicole]

Dear Israeli's,

Kick Hama's arse!! Stay strong!! Be resolute!!

You have friends in the West who are with you.

Cheers,
Nicole - Australia