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Old 07-18-2012, 11:39 PM
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Nothing other than I just wanted to provide my input. I wasn't looking to have this boil into a huge debate.

I'm a member of a local political science group where we discussed this very subject (i'm one of the founding members actually). I get a lot of my information from there, we have some some very informative discussions on various topics.
Try backing up your statements with verifiable documented facts and not just your opinions as such is a requirement here. You are becoming offensive to some members and that is a violation of the terms of use of this site. I don’t know your background however you need to exercise more finesse in your manner of posting.
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Old 07-19-2012, 01:51 AM
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You guys stared mentioning how Argentina is anti semitic for harboring Nazis, so it was only natural to question how anti semitic Britain is in comparison, and both nations are guilty of anti semitism to some degree.
We never disputed that, in fact we posted that ourself. But its not the main point of discussion in this thread.

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Nor did I ever say Israel should totally burn it's bridges with Britain.
Again, Israel has nothing to do with Falklands. USA was mentioned because it a British military ally which is now leaning towards Argentina.

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Looking at the bigger picture, my larger point here is that Israel needs to make new alliances, and if that means supporting Argentina at some point so be it. It's a matter of survival, I doubt we can expect Israel's current major allies to keep supporting it. That even goes for the US (as much as I hate to say it).
Fine, if you believe Israel supporting Argentina shifts the stragetic balance anyway, so be it. Neither Argentina nor Britain will be affected the slightest with regards to the scenario in Falkland Islands. Israel will of course manage to worsen relations with Britain though.

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Just look at Turkey for example. That relationship hit the fan in less than a day.
I see. Since Argentina, Britain, USA, Israel and Turkey are now somehow involved in what started as a discussion on Britain's naval prowess in relation to Falklands, why not throw in some other issues as well and completely miss the point
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I'm a member of a local political science group where we discussed this very subject (i'm one of the founding members actually). I get a lot of my information from there, we have some some very informative discussions on various topics.
If you pursue that hobby, you will either be mocked, ignored, derided or looked at as some sort of a baby eating monster if you try presenting a pro-Israeli view. I can tell you that from experience, so best of luck.
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If you pursue that hobby, you will either be mocked, ignored, derided or looked at as some sort of a baby eating monster if you try presenting a pro-Israeli view. I can tell you that from experience, so best of luck.
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Try backing up your statements with verifiable documented facts and not just your opinions as such is a requirement here. You are becoming offensive to some members and that is a violation of the terms of use of this site. I don’t know your background however you need to exercise more finesse in your manner of posting.
I'm not trying to be offensive to anybody, in any way. I'm expressing my opinion, that doesn't count as being offensive.

People get way too offended over the slightest of things .

Also, Israel became a part of the discussion originally concerning Begin's military aid to Argentina. With that said, I will no longer be posting in this thread.

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Thanks Scelli, and am thankful to British colonism for it or it is highly likely that in India it would have been French colonism instead and I'd be making these points in French, oui, the horror, the horror
harharhar!!!

we all know the french are cheese eating surrender monkeys!
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My point is Britain loves to constantly cling on to their past, including colonialism. It's just weird to me.

I have yet to even understand why British people pay taxes so a queen who has no power can live in luxury.
are you twelve or something!! the falklands islanders want to remain british! the island costs our govt a fortune and if the islanders wanted independence they'd get it, just like other former empire nations. the british only holds onto territories that wants to remain british!
the british empire had many faults but i can assure it was used by G-d in many ways. would Israel exist today if it were not for G-d using balfour? like it or not for years G-d sent missionaries out of the uk all around the world spreading the gospels.
just remember the britain was one of the greatest empires in history and without them where would we be? would we have any form of civilasation without the great empires? or would we be sitting in mud hats scratching our a$$es with a hippo bone!!
Knaur has already said that he is glad that India was part of the empire and britain has been enriched by india and currently india is one of the biggest economies in the world. many of the commonwealth nations are proud to be part of that empire but as with all empires absolute power corrupts absolutley and we made many mistakes but that is our responsibility and not yours. and if you are serious about argentina taking control of the islands, well isn't that colonialism????? after all if a nation invades another nation that does not belong to it then that is called empire building
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This thread is becoming to heated so I am closing it.
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