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Old 04-11-2008, 11:55 PM
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Do any of the rest of you workout? If so what do you do, I do Tae Kwon Do and Kettlebells one compliments the other. I start with explosive drills swings, clean, high pull, and snatch then move to one leg press, renegade row, then see saw press, and end with squats five reps each each arm squats I only do five but hold both 35 pound kettlebells in the racked position that is one set I combine both dynamic drills and stationary drills.

After 5 of these sets your ready for the day. I think they are pretty respectible btw upon my retirement from the military I plan to get my RKC certification and become an instructor. http://www.b2kravmaga.com/ thought you fellows might like this link!
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yep, i do jui-jitsu 3 times a week (2 times 1 1/2 hours, 1 time 2 hours), and workout another 3-4 days a week.... i just joined a gym so i currently use a lot more machines than i previously did, but this is my old routine:

single leg pistol squatsx 8



















inverted row x 12














Dumbbell row x 12















Push up x 12 elevating feet or increasing difficulty when needed


Band face pulls x 15



Prone abs brace x 2mins



1 minute rest between circuits, 3 circuits a workout, 3 workouts a week
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Old 04-12-2008, 09:52 AM
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Comrade,
Is your workout strategy designed to help you in with your martial arts studies. Mine is as you know TKD is about kicks on Thursday night in our light sparing I obliterated my oppenents. The truth is I expected to go down I am the secend biggest guy in the class and was paired off with the biggest guy some suprise there, anyway this guy has me by 6 inches and about 20 pounds and he is not fat.
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that was my old routine, sorry fi i didnt make that clear enough....

my current routine includes a whole lot of exercises but the major ones are: lunges, chest presses, rows, and that machine where you imitate the motion of a pullup from a sitting position....

some other exercises i mix int here are ab exercises, pushups, leg thrusts (or soemthing like that), and some dumbbell exercises.....


my routine is currently focusesd on improving my overall strength, which obviously helps out for jui-jitsu....

just one question, do you do tkd purely for fun or do you actually expect it to help out in a real fight? because from my experiences, tkd will only work against a novice or seomeon who doesnt know much about hte martial arts....

I still remember seeing the #1 tkd artist (kids division, he was 14/15 years old) go up against a shaolin kung-fu blackbelt, and he lost miserably....

obviously there were soem differences in strength and all, but this kid is going to the kids olympics soon, so hes probably at a higer level than most tkd artists....
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Old 04-13-2008, 01:04 PM
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As far as TKD goes I am taking it because it fits into my business plan for after my military retirement. Plain and simple I want to open a facility similar to www.miamikettlebells.com but with my own twist, I had no martial arts training before taking this class. Other than military training which did not cover a lot of what I'm learning here. Also I plan to study other martial arts. Shortly on base we will be having a Mixed Martial Arts instructor for training over the lunch break.

Another reasons for TKD
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my daughter is also taking it
classes are at a good time for my schedule

As far as using it in a real fight, I think we all have our techniques we plan to use in a real fight. TKD has added a few weapons to my tool box that I did not have before. The same would be true of any martial art studied.
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As far as TKD goes I am taking it because it fits into my business plan for after my military retirement. Plain and simple I want to open a facility similar to www.miamikettlebells.com but with my own twist, I had no martial arts training before taking this class. Other than military training which did not cover a lot of what I'm learning here. Also I plan to study other martial arts. Shortly on base we will be having a Mixed Martial Arts instructor for training over the lunch break.

Another reasons for TKD
price
my daughter is also taking it
classes are at a good time for my schedule

As far as using it in a real fight, I think we all have our techniques we plan to use in a real fight. TKD has added a few weapons to my tool box that I did not have before. The same would be true of any martial art studied.
i didnt say you shouldnt learn tkd, just that if you plan to use it in a fight you might be in for a surprise, its just like when the UFC just started and they realized that martial arts like karate only worked when the other guy was also using them...

tkd will help if you have no knowledge whatsoever of fighting, but its mroe of a sport than anything else...

I've done karate for 2 years, kickboxing for a few months and jui-jitsu for about 6 months, and so far, jui-jitsu is by far the best and most practical, so if you plan to learn more martial arts i'd recommend jui-jitsu, though you have to find a good dojo for it because the focus varies a lot from dojo to dojo.

my dojo is focused on mma jui-jitsu, so we do sparring, techniques, and grappling mixed in with some breakfalls (rolling breakfalls too, once you learn them its a hell of a lot of fun to jump over a rope thats almost as high as you)...

and thats one of the biggest problems with tkd... what do you do when, not if, the fight goes onto the ground? 90% of all fights end up on the ground, and from what i've seen, tkd doesnt really have any ground game (maybe im mistaken, i've never taken tkd)...
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I agree, TKD is a sport, I do intend to extend my knowledge base of various fighting styles. Your correct about the ground game. That is where the massive strenght gained from the kettlebells come in. If you will notice my workout plan I have 40 kettlebell swing reps 5 each arm swing, clean, high pull, and snatches those are to simulate excertion in punching and kicking, next exercise is the one leg press simply stand on one leg and press the kettlebell this has to objectives first is to aid in balance while kicking second is to build strength. The next three are various presses to build core strenth for the ground game Renegade Row, double kettlebell squat and the see saw press.

a workout consists of 5 sets of 5 reps each arm.

Comrade did you see that part in "Saving Pvt Ryan" where the German soldat overpowers and kills the American? I don't want to be that American Soldier. The Kettlebell is a powerfull tool right now I am in a transition stage going from 16kg to 24kg (24kg is standard issue for the Russian Federation military)
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The only thing clean on him is his weapon.
He doesn't worry about what workout to do...
His rucksack weighs what he weighs, and he runs until the enemy stops chasing him
The True believer doesn't care 'how hard it is'... he knows he either wins or he dies.
He doesn't go home at 1700... he is home.
He knows only the cause...
Now, who wants to quit?

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I agree, TKD is a sport, I do intend to extend my knowledge base of various fighting styles. Your correct about the ground game. That is where the massive strenght gained from the kettlebells come in. If you will notice my workout plan I have 40 kettlebell swing reps 5 each arm swing, clean, high pull, and snatches those are to simulate excertion in punching and kicking, next exercise is the one leg press simply stand on one leg and press the kettlebell this has to objectives first is to aid in balance while kicking second is to build strength. The next three are various presses to build core strenth for the ground game Renegade Row, double kettlebell squat and the see saw press.

a workout consists of 5 sets of 5 reps each arm.

Comrade did you see that part in "Saving Pvt Ryan" where the German soldat overpowers and kills the American? I don't want to be that American Soldier. The Kettlebell is a powerfull tool right now I am in a transition stage going from 16kg to 24kg (24kg is standard issue for the Russian Federation military)

yah i saw that movie, quite a good one in fact....


and i agree with you, i would definetly prefer not to be that american soldier in real life.


and if thats the standard for the russian army, than thats not bad.... i know they ahev some brutal training over there.... but i wouldnt count on standards all too much if i were you....


and i forgot to mention this in my last post; if you ever want to see what jui-jitsu is like watch the UFC, its virtually identical, except they call themselves MMA fighters, an excuse to not keep their hands up, and in some cases their technique and thinking is horrible. but overall, the UFC is pretty much jui-jitsu... (sorry if i seem like im pushing it or anything, but its a great martial art)
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I just started training an MMA fighter in Kettlebells he has been looking for an edge, that this will give it to him I hope.
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maybe.... i've heard some great things about it, but i never had the chance to actually use them because i couldnt find any anywhere.

is it also true that some of the motions are very similar to cable pulls (thats the impression i got from the videos i saw, looked like a cable pull exercise but without the actual cable and all the weight)?
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I am 45 years old and I smoked a few Army guys who aspire to MMA fighting in a workout granted I have been using KBs for a while but still I am not 25 years old.
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His rucksack weighs what he weighs, and he runs until the enemy stops chasing him
The True believer doesn't care 'how hard it is'... he knows he either wins or he dies.
He doesn't go home at 1700... he is home.
He knows only the cause...
Now, who wants to quit?
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I had worked taek won do almost 10 years ago. to tell the truth, I am not as succesful as doing normal sports, like basketball and table tennis,than doing that.
but my brother has several wrestling medals. I cant think anyone dare challenge him, considering he is such a tough guy.
last time I invited him to show a couple of taek won do techniques, I opened my eyes in the emergency ward.

One of my friends is doing Aikido. he is doing very well. really good martial arts. though ,Aikido should not be considered as a martial art. it is merely art.
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weights, running, cqb(martial art). Is masturbating counted as working out? ;)
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Manaia,
May I suggest GET A GIRL FRIEND!
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Soon to be 59 and with this junk somewhere between M.S. and Agent Orange exposure as the Neurological specialists tell me my fighting/workout days are very limited if not pretty much in the past. The left side hand and arm go into a neurological burn near shutdown. Yea, I'm trying to do what I can but at 6’ 5” and 300 lbs in reality it’s like trying to race a Porsche with a Semi-Tractor. Half the body does not want to play anymore sometimes and I never know when that is. Thank God I am right handed. The pain is always there only the level varies. It at least keeps you reminded you are alive and the mind sharp for now anyway. It affects short term memory when it is acting up. It’s a good thing I studied all the real bad stuff long ago. It is still there as if it were yesterday. Oh well, nobody wants to live forever and if I make it for just another 18 months I will be the oldest male on my side of the family in at least three generations.

Topmaul, I was never any good at TKD as I was just not flexible/balanced enough for the kicking styles. So you must be a better man than I "gunga din".

Joejd12 my father started me with the judo and jiu-jitsu he learned while in the Army. I really Love jiu-jitsu and think it is the best martial art especially for women (personal opinion). I also studied modified Wing Chun (no kicks above waist height) which I highly enjoyed because it really added to developing the use of my hands, blocks, traps and entering my opponents’ defenses. It allowed me better entry to use my joint, tendon manipulation/tearing or bone breaking techniques.

Everyone has a different body type that lends itself to different martial arts, styles and techniques within each style. Each person must find what fits him or her best. What I saw over too many years were too many wrong shaped pegs being forced into the wrong holes which makes for bad fits resulting in bad martial arts.
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Had no idea Paparock, M.S. is scary. Agent Orange? OMG you are victim of that too!That is horrible! Something the US govt took too much time admiting, just like the Turks are not admitting about the Armenian genocide.
You will need prayers for that.
I hope you feel better.

My instructor told me I had a great destiny in martial arts, during some defense courses I took once with the US feds. I didnt pursue martial arts so much thou, but I think I might since there is still time.
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Had no idea Paparock, M.S. is scary. Agent Orange? OMG you are victim of that too!That is horrible! Something the US govt took too much time admiting, just like the Turks are not admitting about the Armenian genocide.
You will need prayers for that.
I hope you feel better.

My instructor told me I had a great destiny in martial arts, during some defense courses I took once with the US feds. I didnt pursue martial arts so much thou, but I think I might since there is still time.
New Ron, I was not exposed to Agent Orange but to many chemicals during my time working in the Oil Refining that have affected my nervous system in ways similar to the way Agent Orange did to men during Vietnam. My doctors say they may never be able to determine exactly what I have but that there is no cure for such neurological diseases anyway. They can only try to control the symptoms. The nerve specialists say they know it is a demyelinating disease that attacks the covering of my nerves. The damage is permanent and is more on the left side of my body than the right. The doctors just use the Agent Orange example and also do because most people have an understanding of the effects of it and my disease’s effects are so similar. It also causes similar marks within the brain as M.S. does. The drugs they have me on have pretty much stabilized my condition so I can live a fairly normal existence with the exception of the constant pain I live with. Some of it is real and some is not.

I hope you stick with some form of martial arts as it will help you stay flexible and your body younger as you age. There are so many different styles and forms that fit different body types and we may have to change due to injury over our lifetime as well. I have always been partial to grappling arts like Jiujutsu, Chin Na, but I also really like Wing Chun as it fit together well with the grappling arts. I was never any good at the high kicks.
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New Ron, I was not exposed to Agent Orange but to many chemicals during my time working in the Oil Refining that have affected my nervous system in ways similar to the way Agent Orange did to men during Vietnam. My doctors say they may never be able to determine exactly what I have but that there is no cure for such neurological diseases anyway. They can only try to control the symptoms. The nerve specialists say they know it is a demyelinating disease that attacks the covering of my nerves. The damage is permanent and is more on the left side of my body than the right. The doctors just use the Agent Orange example and also do because most people have an understanding of the effects of it and my disease’s effects are so similar. It also causes similar marks within the brain as M.S. does. The drugs they have me on have pretty much stabilized my condition so I can live a fairly normal existence with the exception of the constant pain I live with. Some of it is real and some is not.

I hope you stick with some form of martial arts as it will help you stay flexible and your body younger as you age. There are so many different styles and forms that fit different body types and we may have to change due to injury over our lifetime as well. I have always been partial to grappling arts like Jiujutsu, Chin Na, but I also really like Wing Chun as it fit together well with the grappling arts. I was never any good at the high kicks.
really? damn i feel bad about that... did u get some kind of compensation from the oil company you were working for?


and actually wing-chun is a much better martial art for women because it was created specifically for them...

wing chun was invented by women munks who got robbed and molested on a daily basis some centuries ago, and it stresses the use of counter-force, if your opponent pushes one way, you should simply let him go that way and simply move out of the way etc., the art really requires no physical strength and as such is ideal for women who would have to fight bigger and stronger men (usually men that is, ive witnessed more than one catfight)...

but each dojo teaches a specific art differently depending on what your sensei feels is most important/is best at (some places put emphasis on the art form, while others put it on self defense and some on the sport aspect of it) so my limited knowledge of wing chun may be completely wrong....

and the jiu-jitsu i practice is a much more free form type of jiu-jitsu (its really more like a much more disciplined form of MMA, you wont ever see us with our hands down or anything like that) my sensei used to study under a former ranger from vietnam who stressed the practical aspects of the art over the rituals and as a result our dojo focuses heavily on grappling, striking (fighting hand to hand muay thai style), physical fitness, and more practical techniques like hip throws/ bodythrows etc.
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His rucksack weighs what he weighs, and he runs until the enemy stops chasing him
The True believer doesn't care 'how hard it is'... he knows he either wins or he dies.
He doesn't go home at 1700... he is home.
He knows only the cause...
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I just finished a Kettlebell workout that has about whipped me! Guess I'm getting old! These cannon balls with handles are about the greatest thing ever, and you can use them for an anchor if needed.
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He doesn't worry about what workout to do...
His rucksack weighs what he weighs, and he runs until the enemy stops chasing him
The True believer doesn't care 'how hard it is'... he knows he either wins or he dies.
He doesn't go home at 1700... he is home.
He knows only the cause...
Now, who wants to quit?
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