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Serbs knows that Jews and Israel are their friends. We don't forget very strong support from general Ariel Sharon and Prime Minister Avigdor Lieberman, when they did their best to stop bombing 1999. Also, Mrs. Julia Gorin help us with her articles in Jerusalem Post. I hope that true about Serbia comes to light. Israel is security gate and guard of Europe from Muslims extremists, but Israel is alone between enemies. Serbia is guard of Balkan from Muslims extremists, in very similar situation as Israel. Also, don't forget catholic church and its attempt to destroy Serbian orthodox church and it is in progress now. Europe doesn't understand it. Germany never forget military defeat in WW1 from Serbia, and they will be happy to Serbia be lost to sight for all times. Only military strong Serbia can stopping Muslims extremists on Balkan. Today, Muslims in Raska region (Muslim name that region is Sandzak) want secession from Serbia. Europe supporting it. Turkish also. On demonstration vs. Israel about commando action on convoy, Muslims bring Turkish, Palestinian and Muslim green flags and anti - Israel placard and slogans, supported fight vs. Israel. I have 3 links about it, but I still haven't 15 posts.
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Only ONE european nation had a Jewish population increase during WW2, muslim Albania! Who's religious leaders supported Jews. They followed a more scholarly form of Islam. As for Bosniacs, they do not know very much about Islam today as in the past. They would have seen past a British appointed "Palestinian" mufti who happened to be Egyptian.
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There were many Albanians who helped Jews in WWII, while others joined Nazi forces.

Croatia was an artificial country created by Adolf Hitler, Bosnians joined the Nazis.

They together with Amin Al Husseini a Palestinian mufti of Jerusalem, killed hundreds of thousands of Jews, Serbs and Gypsies. Why did they kill Serbs? Because Serbs took a stand against Hitler.

The Albanians in Kosovo are there because of the Islamic invasion of the Ottoman Empure, who stole Serbian land, so all this mess began with the Islamic invaders who couldnt observe a "moderate" Islam.

Yes the Albanians in Kosovo had a very moderate version of Islam, but when they treated Serbs as second class citizens. Croatia (a nazi state) and Bosnia wanted to separate more land from the Serbs in then Yugoslavia, this broke out a war, that I repeat was started by the muslims in Bosnia. Serbs fought back, and to tell the truth, THAT LAND BELONGS TO SERBS!!!!

Iran was the FIRST country to send help to the muslim forces to fight the Serbs, quickly after the Saudis wanted to compete and sent Wahabi forces.

And sadly Joseph Biden then a senator fought for US weapons to be sent to the muslim forces. The KLA (Kosovo Liberation Army) affiliated with Al Qaeda was removed from the terrorist list by Bill Clinton at the asking of the then NATO commander and the US and EU aligned themselves clearly with the KLA by sending them help and support and left the Serbs knowing they will be fighting the muslims by themselves!

Right now if you walk in Kosovo, you will see Wahabi imams, who werent there before Kosovo was given independence by NATO and the dumb west! The Albanains who acepted all this help from Iran and Saudi arabia are now indebted to them, and the Albanians are now becoming more and more terrorist like.

The KLA/UCK who America defended, among them are many leaders who became politicans in the new "Kosovo" made a video to celebrate Sept 11 2001 as a victory for Islam.

When did we ever hear of Serbian terrorists attack America or Israel, or Europe?

When did we ever hear of Serbians invading another country?

Not once! They are cleaner than America is! And certainly cleaner than Turkey, Croatia and Bosnia who all have war criminals since World War II ignored by western powers because among them were Catholic Church officials behind it, so the whole mater was kept quiet.

The Christian King Peter of Serbia, was turned down by America after WWII, in favor of the Communist Tito, sometimes I wonder how stupid we can all be!

Kosovo is now nothing but an Organ traffiking capital of the world!
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By Julia Gorin

I’ve been meaning to bring up something that was reawakened by a recent verdict at a Serbian war crimes trial. What most people are kept ignorant of is that the first shots of the Bosnian war were fired upon a retreating convoy of Yugoslav troops from Bosnia. As they were retreating, per the agreement between Belgrade and Sarajevo, the multi-ethnic soldiers of the JNA (Yugoslav National Army) were fired upon by the Muslims. It was a massacre, triggering the bloody war. That was the shot heard ’round the world if, of course, if you don’t count the Bosnian Muslim who in March 1992 killed the father of the groom in a Serbian wedding party in Sarajevo.


In a mainstream news source reporting on the verdict (AP), I was surprised to see the writer actually deign to consider the real chronology of the start of the war — rather than defer to the usual “Milosevic, the man who started three wars in the Balkans….”: Bosnian jailed in Serbia for war crimes

See full article here (kinda long lol) http://www.juliagorin.com/wordpress/?p=2279
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Al Qaeda's Balkan Links
Wall Street Journal Europe | November 1, 2001 | Marcia Christoff Kurop

The Balkans' uncharacteristically silent exit from the world stage as the most prominent international hot spot of the last decade belies its status as a major recruiting and training center of Osama bin Laden's al Qaeda network. By feeding off the region's impoverished republics and taking root in the unsettled diplomatic aftermath of the Bosnia and Kosovo conflicts, al Qaeda, along with Iranian Revolutionary Guard-sponsored terrorists, have burrowed their way into Europe's backyard.


For the past 10 years, the most senior leaders of al Qaeda have visited the Balkans, including bin Laden himself on three occasions between 1994 and 1996. The Egyptian surgeon turned terrorist leader Ayman Al-Zawahiri has operated terrorist training camps, weapons of mass destruction factories and money-laundering and drug-trading networks throughout Albania, Kosovo, Macedonia, Bulgaria, Turkey and Bosnia. This has gone on for a decade. Many recruits to the Balkan wars came originally from Chechnya, a jihad in which Al Qaeda has also played a part.


These activities have been exhaustively researched by Yossef Bodansky, the former director of the U.S. House of Representatives' Task Force on Terrorism and Unconventional Warfare. The February testimony of an Islamist ringleader associated with the East Africa bombings have also helped throw light on these actions.


They have however been disguised under the cover of dozens of "humanitarian" agencies spread throughout Bosnia, Kosovo and Albania. Funding has come from now-defunct banks such as the Albanian-Arab Islamic Bank and from bin Laden's so-called Advisory and Reformation Committee. One of his largest Islamist front agencies, it was established in London in 1994.


Narco-Jihad Culture
The overnight rise of heroin trafficking through Kosovo -- now the most important Balkan route between Southeast Asia and Europe after Turkey -- helped also to fund terrorist activity directly associated with al Qaeda and the Iranian Revolutionary Guard. Opium poppies, which barely existed in the Balkans before 1995, have become the No. 1 drug cultivated in the Balkans after marijuana. Operatives of two al Qaeda-sponsored Islamist cells who were arrested in Bosnia on Oct. 23 were linked to the heroin trade, underscoring the narco-jihad culture of today's post-war Balkans.


These drug rings in turn form part of an estimated $8 billion a year Taliban annual income from global drug trafficking, predominantly in heroin. According to Mr. Bodansky, the terrorism expert, bin Laden administers much of that trade through Russian mafia groups for a commission of 10% to 15% -- or around $1 billion annually.


The settling of Afghan-trained mujahideen in the Balkans began around 1992, when recruits were brought into Bosnia by the ruling Islamic party of Bosnia, the Party of Democratic Action, from Chechnya, Saudi Arabia, Egypt, Pakistan, as well as Italy, Germany and Turkey. They were all given journalists' credentials to avoid explicit detection by the West. Others were married immediately to Bosnian Muslim women and incorporated into regular army ranks.


Intelligence services of the Nordic-Polish SFOR (previously IFOR) sector alerted the U.S. of their presence in 1992 while the number of mujahideen operating in Bosnia alone continued to grow from a few hundred to around 6,000 in 1995. Though the Clinton administration had been briefed extensively by the State Department in 1993 on the growing Islamist threat in former Yugoslavia, little was done to follow through.


The Bosnian Embassy in Vienna issued a passport to bin Laden in 1993, according to various reports in the Yugoslav press at the time. The reports add that bin Laden then visited a terrorist camp in Zenica, Bosnia in 1994. The Bosnian government denies all of this, but admits that some passport records have been lost. Around that time, bin Laden directed al Qaeda "senior commanders" to incorporate the Balkans into an complete southeastern approach to Europe, an area stretching from the Caucasus to Italy. Al Zawahiri, the Egyptian surgeon reputed to be the second in command of the entire al Qaeda network, headed up this southeastern frontline.


By 1994, major Balkan terrorist training camps included Zenica, and Malisevo and Mitrovica in Kosovo. Elaborate command-and-control centers were further established in Croatia, and Tetovo, Macedonia as well as around Sofia, Bulgaria, according to the U.S. Congress's task force on terrorism. In Albania, the main training camp included even the property of former Albanian premier Sali Berisha in Tropje, Albania, who was then very close to the Kosovo Liberation Army.


Not even stalwart NATO ally Turkey escaped the network. Areas beyond government control were also visited by bin Laden in 1996 according to London-based Jane's Intelligence Review. The government has been battling two terrorist groups: Jund al Islam, whose assassinated Syrian leader was one of bin Laden's closets confidantes, and the Kurdish PKK, whose leader, Abdullah Ocalan, merged his group's activities with those of Iran's Hezbollah in 1998.


Furthermore, as revealed in the February 2001 East Africa bombing trial testimony of Jamal al Fadl -- an al Qaeda operative in charge of weapons development in Sudan -- uranium used in "dirty bombs" that release lethal radioactive material, had been tested in 1994 by members of the Sudan-based Islamic National Front in the town of Hilat Koko, in Turkish-held northern Cyprus. Cyprus, both its north and southern sides, has also become a center for offshore money laundering by Arab banks fronting al Qaeda funds into the Balkans. The CIA puts al Qaeda's specific Balkan-directed funds -- those tied to the "humanitarian" agencies and local banks and not explicitly counting the significant drug profits added to that -- at around $500 million to $700 million between 1992 and 1998.
So where was the U.S. in all this? It was not until 1995 that the Clinton administration was forced to start pursuing the Islamist network in the Balkans. Not quite a month after the Dayton accords had been signed in November 1995, an influx of Iranian arms came into Bosnia with the apparent tacit approval of the administration, in violation of U.N. sanctions. While publicly pressing Bosnian President Alia Izebegovic to purge remaining Islamist elements, the administration was loath to confront Sarajevo and Tehran over their presence.


Instead, Islamist groups went quietly underground as the windfall of weapons landed in their hands. They later joined up with a new Islamist center in Sofia established as a kind of rear guard by the al Zawahiri. Following the Zagreb arrest and extradition of renowned Egyptian militant Faud Qassim, an al Zawahiri favorite, the Sofia-based militants planned the deployment in Bosnia of terrorists capable of planning and leading possible major terrorist strikes against U.S. and SFOR facilities, according to al Fadl's testimony to the House Task Force on Terrorism.


Islamist infiltration of the Kosovo Liberation Army advanced, meanwhile. Bin Laden is said to have visited Albania in 1996 and 1997, according to the murder-trial testimony of an Algerian-born French national, Claude Kader, himself an Afghanistan-trained mujahideen fronting at the Albanian-Arab Islamic Bank. He recruited some Albanians to fight with the KLA in Kosovo, according to the Paris-based Observatoire Geopolitique des Drogues.


Controversial Relationship

By early 1998 the U.S. had already entered into its controversial relationship with the KLA to help fight off Serbian oppression of that province. While in February the U.S. gave into KLA demands to remove it from the State Department's terrorism list, the gesture amounted to little. That summer the CIA and CIA-modernized Albanian intelligence (SHIK) were engaged in one of the largest seizures of Islamic Jihad cells operating in Kosovo.


Fearing terrorist reprisal from al Qaeda, the U.S. temporarily closed its embassy in Tirana and a trip to Albania by then Defense Secretary William Cohen was canceled out of fear of an assassination attempt. Meanwhile, Albanian separatism in Kosovo and Metohija was formally characterized as a "jihad" in October 1998 at an annual international Islamic conference in Pakistan.


Nonetheless, the 25,000 strong KLA continued to receive official NATO/U.S. arms and training support and, at the talks in Rambouillet, France, then Secretary of State Madeleine Albright shook hands with "freedom fighter" Hashim Thaci, a KLA leader. As this was taking place, Europol (the European Police Organization based in The Hague) was preparing a scathing report on the connection between the KLA and international drug gangs. Even Robert Gelbard, America's special envoy to Bosnia, officially described the KLA as Islamic terrorists.


With the future status of Kosovo still in question, the only real development that may be said to be taking place there is the rise of Wahhabi Islam -- the puritanical Saudi variety favored by bin Laden -- and the fastest growing variety of Islam in the Balkans. Today, in general, the Balkans are left without the money, political resources, or institutional strength to fight a war on terrorism. And that, for the Balkan Islamists, is a Godsend.

See original story here: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/fr/561291/posts
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And finally a picture speaks louder than words.....



Secretary of State Madeleine Albright embracing Kosovo Albanian Hashim Thaci, a KLA/ Al Qaeda leader.
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John Bolton: Kosovo will spark islamic extremism in Europe



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Serbia has been bombed and occupied from Hitler's Germany. All Serbs soldiers has been in concentration camps, but the Croats soldiers has been organized in Ustashe, whose are fighting on the Hitler side. On the contrary, Serbs organized two liberation organizations - partisans and chetniks, whose are fought much better from Franch liberation organization of Charles de Gaulle. That's been strongest tenacity in Hitler's Europe. Partisan's underground fighters delivered too much Jews families from occupied Belgrade. I know that, because my grandfather been partisan's underground fighter in Belgrade.
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The Greater Albania nationalist movement formed the Balli Kombetar, the Albanian Kosovo Committee, and the Skanderbeg Nazi SS Division, two-thirds of whose members were Kosovar Albanian Muslims. Kosovar Albanian Muslims played a major role in the Holocaust, the murder of European Jews. Kosovar Albanian Nazi SS troops participated in the roundup of Kosovo Jews who were later killed at Bergen-Belsen. What occurred in Kosovo during World War II was genocide. The mainstream accounts of World War II have censored and covered up the Kosovar Albanian role in the genocide against Kosovo Serbs and the role of Kosovar Albanians in the Holocaust.
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Red Lion you said it 18000 Bosnians! 300 Albanians, there were probably as many Jews in German military. I know Serbs proud people. I doubt very few served nazis. Even today I have Serb freinds here in Chicago. I trust thier honor, and feel they know I am thier freind.
As for Croatians, I know very few. The Bosnians are islamic in name only. They all drink and are very poor morally.

Back to my previous post. Albania was very far from Yugosalvia. It was a seperate nation, that was under Italian control during WW2. Which makes their aid of Jews more amazing to me. As you said the Catholic Croations hated Jews. The pope was no freinds to the children of jacob.
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Lets be clear, I dont personally have anything against the nation of Albania, it is the Kosovo Albanians in question here, they acted like typical Islamic terrorists, who have been doing everything to have a separate Islamic state in a land that was sacred to someone else, in this case Kosovo. The fact that the nation of Albania recognized the Islamic republic of Kosovo should tell you something, whatever good they did in WWII, they have chosen the dark path of Islamic agression today, and the fact that people are bad muslims, meaning they drink and stuff doesnt mean they are good people. Ive met a drunk muslim man, who preached to me that the Palestinian people will one day destroy Israel, his weakness for alcohol is something alot middle eastern leaders and people have, just look at President Assad in Syria, 100% secular bathist, but still defending the religious bigots Hezbollah.

Id prefer a pious muslim person, who defends Israel, than a drunk, womanizing muslim who spits on Israel.

Serbia also defended and saved many Jews, but after World War II, they were betrayed by so many of us their allies.

America could have made Serbia an ally, I know so many Serbs and they love America, but America bombed them, stole their land and gave it to Islamic terrorists, how can we win Serbia that way? I'm not a big fan of Russia but atleast Russia stayed loyal to their own Slavic people, by pushing away Serbia, America missed a chance to get Russia closer to them, not by "buying" them, but by winning their hearts.

Instead America prefered winning the hearts of a couple of muslims in Albania, probaby because of all the hate against America in muslim nations, America wanted to try and get some on their side, sorry but many Albanians muslims still hate America, plenty of Kosovars joined Al Qaeda, and were ironically stopped by Serbian police before they could attack American interests, to quote Debbie Schlussel who exposed some terrorists who wanted to attack a UTAH mall in 2007:

"Yes, this is what we get for helping the Bosnian Muslims against the Serbs. Terror, murder, and mayhem in U.S. malls. The Muslims blame us anyway. Thanks, Bill Clinton."
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As you said the Catholic Croations hated Jews..
As for the Croatians, who are part Catholic and part muslims, they worked together to tell the Orthodox Serbs back in the 1940's, become catholic or be beheaded, those Serbs who refused, got beheaded, raped, had their heads bashed by hammers, burnt to death and other ways thought up by the Croatians, to the point even the Nazi SS officials remarked that the Croatians were going too far in their ways......

Here depected in the picture below is Croatia in November 2010 ladies and gentlemen, they havent changed, and yet the world is giving them a place of respect in NATO and EU..



Novemeber 2010 Croatians, branding Nazi and Vatican flags.
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As for the Croatians, who are part Catholic and part muslims,
Just a minor correction here if you don't mind. Croatians are all Catholic (although there's a few atheist). They make up 15% of total population in Bosnia and Herzegovina. As for muslims, they all belong to a separate ethnic group in Bosnia, and that's Bosniaks (some 50% of country's population).
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Just a minor correction here if you don't mind. Croatians are all Catholic (although there's a few atheist). They make up 15% of total population in Bosnia and Herzegovina. As for muslims, they all belong to a separate ethnic group in Bosnia, and that's Bosniaks (some 50% of country's population).
The majority are Catholic, aswell as a few ethnic Serbs who are Orthodox, but many of them fled to Serbia in the 90's because of the persecution by Croatians. However there are also muslim Croatians, perhaps very small amount of the population, but in a way they are all "muslims mentality". Simply because when the Catholic population forced the Serbs to become Catholic, they asked muslims from Bosnia mostly to help them with the violent part of the "conversion" (to enforce the conversions by the sword) the muslims were more than happy to comply (I will post links to these stories once I have time, to proove my point.) so in a way war criminal like Ante Pavelic and Hajj Amin Al Husseini are all one bunch of nazi monkeys.
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In last ten years (2000-2010) Serbian army is systematically destroyed. Serbian government is obsequious in relation to USA, UK and Europe. They doesn’t want to Serbian army maintenance equipment: tanks, airplanes,… etc. They doesn’t want strong Serbian army,despite the very hostile environmentaround us. Also, they want multinational professional army?!? Imagine that Israel’s army is full off Palestinians, Syrians, Lebanon's?! It’s madness! Somebody wants to destroy Serbia for all time.
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Tayyp Erdogan in Serbia, Raska region (Sandzak), without Serbian flag! It's restore of the Ottoman empire in Serbia!
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New Ron, you heard about "captain Dragan"? He was commander of Serbian special forces "Knindze" in Srpska Krajina, in war 1991 vs. Croatia. His name is Daniel Sneden. We know very few about him, but there is a story that he is from Israel. Also, we don't know is "Daniel Sneden" his real name or pseudonym. It's mystery. However, he is imprisoned in Australia, because Croatia claim his extradition. Serbs respect him, because he was brilliant commander and honor man. Even though he active supported and helped revolution vs. Milosevic in October 2000, Serbian government doesn't want support and help him today. Today, Serbia extradites its brilliant commanders and generals, but nominates incompetent officers for highest ranking in army. What a absurdity!
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Leon E. Lebl
Rafailo and Anaf Davico
Avram Beraha
Danilo Albahari
Jasa Alfandari
Morduh Novogorodski
Salom Ruso
Iro Gutman
Avram Ozerovic
Benko Davico
David Koen
Solomon Alkalaj
David Alkalaj
Natalija Neti Munk
David Albala
Leon Koen
Avram Josif Vinaver
Stanislav Vinaver
Jovan Mandil
Avram Levic
Semaja Demajo
Fridrih Pops
Julijus Minh
Azrijel Levi
Geca Kon
Aron Alkalaj
Paulina Lebl Albala
Oto Gavrilovic Fiser…

… These are the names of Jews who have shown immense courage and ability in the wars for freedom, which led to Serbia from 1912 - 1918, against Turkish, Austro-Hungarian Empire and Germany. Their names will remain engraved in golden letters in Serbian history.

Jewish example confirms the unique way in history that the strength of a nation is not in its material goods but in its spirit and character. Without their state and country, even without their language, scattered all over the globe, exposed to the most horrific persecution, unarmed, having as the only weapon the strength of spirit, boundless loyalty to the folk tradition and unwavering faith and hope in the victory of justice over the forces of evil, the Jewish people accomplished this feat outrageous that after two thousand years of restoration of their national state.

Besides all the difference in terms of the historical development of Jews and Serbs, as well as in terms of global scale and impact of their role, the tragic fate of the Jewish nation and the Serbian nation shows great similarity. Centuries of suffering of both are due on the one hand, its geopolitical position at the crossroads of major international roads and civilizations, on the other hand, their deep love for their own freedom and desire to contribute to freedom and equality of others.

Tragedy and greatness of the Jewish people was that his promised land was always a ground on which they crossed the interests of the surrounding neighbors. Hence the invasion: Egyptian, Assyrian, Babylonian, Persian, Greek and finally the invasion of Rome which was completely destroyed Jewish national independence, and the people dismantled the four corners of the world.
History of the Jews is a history of thousand years of suffering, struggle and suffering. It is an endless list of persecutions, massacres, torture and displacement. As no other nation, they were the victim of hatred, envy, greed and the eruption of the darkest impulses. Experience of the World War II, on the middle of the twentieth century is culmination of all terrors.

For Serbs, persecution of the last battle of Kosovo in 1389, especially since the fall of the Serbian state 1459th year. Jammed between the Turks, Austrians, Hungarians, Venice, the Serbs have their right to life and the generally short-term tolerance had to pay so they put their military skills in the service of their masters and oppressors Jews are also right to life and the current lull in the long periods persecution, they primarily pay for gold. When the services of Serbs and Jews in the blood and money are no longer needed their oppressors - either because they were completely looted and exhausted, or some other reason - then began a new persecution.
Persecution of Serbs continued on different sides under foreign rule, and later in the nineteenth and twentieth century, culminated in the First and Second World War. Before and during the First World War 1914-1918, there were large pogroms against the Serbs in the provinces of Austria-Hungary, where Serbs lived, particularly in Bosnia and Herzegovina. Czechoslovak historian Milada Paulova wrote: “It was time that the Serbs had to suffer for their Serbian name of all that is dearest to man: honor, freedom, life, property ... Certain territorial zone along the border between Serbia and Montenegro, with many built gallows on which hung patriots looked like, as I noted in the Vienna Neue Freie Presse , the picture of the Last Judgement. "

However, the persecution of Serbs reached a peak during the Second World War. So-called Independent State of Croatia (NDH), the puppet creation of Hitler and Mussolini, atrocities committed against Serbs in this period, the horror and magnitude exceed those of the medieval religious wars and the Inquisition. The man felt revulsion and at the very mention of such horror, such as removing the eyes, peeling skin from a living man, slicing, sawing people alive, toss in a hot oven, taking out knives children from the womb ...
Italian writer Curzio Malaparte in his book "Kaputt" described the basket full of Serbian eyes which Pavelic received "as gift" hrom his faithful Ustasha.

Serbian Jews showed solidarity with the Serbs throughout the entire period of the Serbian struggle for national liberation and unification. There were Jews who helped Serbian rebels during the uprising Karađorđe 1804-1813. At the time of Prince Milos (1815 to 1842. And 1858-1860), a Jew Hajim Davico was ducal army supplier. He was a confidant of Prince Milos for many secret and important tasks. Davico has provided weapons for his money, sometimes waiting long time for debt. Davico sent weapons and Belgrade Vizier Yusuf-Pasha, with whom he maintained close ties. However, he is loyal to Prince Milos and the Serbian national cause. Once, he even saved Milos’s life. Turkish Vizier called Serbian Prince in the Kalemegdan fortress, "for the agreement", but actually to kill him. Prince Milos go to town. Davico, who had a gearbox shop on the corner of the inn " Greek Queen ", run out before the Prince and warn him of danger. Davico had to escape with his family to Zemun. Serbian cultural historian of the nineteenth century, highly commends Davico’s Serbian patriotism.
Solidarity with the Serbs, Jews alse expressed outside the Kingdom of Serbia: in Old Serbia and Macedonia (then under Turkish), in Bosnia and Herzegovina and Croatia (the Austro-Hungarian Empire), and so on.
Serbo-Turkish War 1877-1878 included a lot of Belgrade Jews. David Cohen, one of the oldest among Serbian intellectuals, Jews, preaching the Serbian patriotism in his flaming sermons addressed to Jewish youth. The Serbian national revival period 1903-1912, when the Serbian appears as a holder of not only Serbian but the Yugoslav national idea, Serbian Jews actively participate in national action. Some Jewish youth participating as volunteers in the Serbian guerrilla action in Old Serbia and Macedonia, and die there Jews Indigenous to the provinces ruled by Turkey cooperate with the Serbs, a young Jewish students in Belgrade wrote patriotic articles in the newspapers, etc..
During the annexation crisis in 1908, Belgrade Jews provide very significant support to Serbia, a small country of three million inhabitants, its difficult diplomatic struggle against the great Austro-Hungarian Empire, the country with over 50 million.
This solidarity has found, however, culminates in wars of national liberation and unification of Serbs and other Yugoslavs, primarily in the Balkan wars of 1912-1913, and then in the First World War 1914-1918. year.
Great cordiality that has characterized relations between Serbs and Jews in the period 1903-1918, helps to prevent a unique phenomenon in the world at that time. It is a fact that was pointed by Serbian Jews. They are not felt as a national minority but as "Serbs of Moses' faith." They also pointed out that nowhere in the world probably does not have a case similar to the one with the Belgrade synagogue in which the foundation charter was inserted with expressions of respect and good wishes, which bears the signature of the supreme head of the Serbian Orthodox Church, Metropolitan (later Patriarch) Demetrius. Life of Jews in the Kingdom of Serbia, the positions which they enjoyed in the highest state representatives and wide relations that existed between them and the other Serb, are given in "Jewish Bulletin" in number 12 from 13 June 1908 (published by David Alkalaj).

Jews took part in the Balkan wars 1912-1913. Impressed by the bravery Serbian Jews, a German military expert Richthofen, considering that on the basis of the examples should be revised opinion on weak military qualities of the Jews. However, the explanation is very simple. Man sacrifice himself for what he loves, and Serbian Jews loved their homeland of Serbia and the Serbian people whose generosity they provide full freedom of democracy and equality.

On the other hand, at November 1917. Jews in the Balfour Declaration pointed out their right for national state, after nineteen centuries of exile.
After England, Serbian first put his signature on the Balfour Declaration on the recognition of the rights of Jews to an independent state.

After the liberation, the Jews of these regions remain in solidarity with the Serbs in all branches of life.

to be continued


Note:
These are the details from the book “Jews for Serbian freedom 1912 – 1918”. The book was written by Mr. Michailo B. Milosevic. The book was written in 1965, but due to the then political situation (president of Yugoslavia was Tito, who has never been a friend of Israel and Serbia), could not be printed. Finally published in 1995, during the reign of Slobodan Milosevic's administration.

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Sorry for bad english, it's google translated.


On the photos - Jewish Community, Jewish War Hospital, Jewish school, Serbian King Peter I, lays foundation stone for the construction of the Synagogue "Bet Israel", Lieutenant Moshe Amar (later Colonel) and Sergeant Leon Lebl (student).
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New Ron, you heard about "captain Dragan"? He was commander of Serbian special forces "Knindze" in Srpska Krajina, in war 1991 vs. Croatia. His name is Daniel Sneden. We know very few about him, but there is a story that he is from Israel. Also, we don't know is "Daniel Sneden" his real name or pseudonym. It's mystery. However, he is imprisoned in Australia, because Croatia claim his extradition. Serbs respect him, because he was brilliant commander and honor man. Even though he active supported and helped revolution vs. Milosevic in October 2000, Serbian government doesn't want support and help him today. Today, Serbia extradites its brilliant commanders and generals, but nominates incompetent officers for highest ranking in army. What a absurdity!
Sadly I didnt hear about him before today, but he sounds like he is a hero for Serbia. Serbia was fighting the same enemies Israel and America is fighting today, KLA are al qaeda, and yet there is a double standard in the West when it comes to Serbia. He should be in prison, especially when it is Croatia of all people accusing him, Croatia should be on trail for all they have done to Serbians!

There are some people who want Ariel Sharon to go to jail because Israel had to defend themselves against the arabs, and alot of the world took the side of the arabs, the same thing is happening with Serbia, the worse part is that many of our different governments are accepting this injustice!
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Leon E. Lebl, one of the heroes in the battle of Kolubara


One of whom Serbian Jews who died in the war 1914-1918. permanent memorial in particular deserves enthusiastic young patriot, Leon B. Lebl, student and journalist. He is a volunteer, although gentle health, joined the army as a student-sergeant, with less than 22 years, fell heroically november 29th 1914 on Kosmaj mount. "So he is - says I. Slang - a Serb and a Jew, champion of world folk thing, its hot and young blood, sacrificing his life, he confirmed that for what is an associate "Piedmont" in various articles advocating. "

His commander, Milutin Stepanovic, commander of the Tenth Infantry Regiment, a second call, described the death of Leon in a letter to Kalman Lebl, Leon's brother, which states in part that:
"Among the first who flew in the enemy fearlessly and steadfastly was your brother, Leon sergeant, because his company and he and his tenth of the first platoon were fighting in the first row. His soldiers, who loved him for his extraordinary personal courage, gaiety and a very nice behavior, no one ever left the rate.
In this assault Leon, who was with two of its soldiers jumped into the Austrian trenches, was hit by bullets from enemy machine guns in the right leg first and then got deadly shot in the stomach. His companions were again stormed the enemy trenches to steal his dead body from the enemy. The enemy is beaten, a body buried in the area of Leon's death.

On the occasion of the heroic death of Leon Lebl, list of Serbian nationalists "Piedmont", in which Lebl was a journalist, published in its Christmas issue (24, 25 and 26 HP 1914) the following obituary:
"A chaste and holy sacrifice from among our brothers Moses' faith! Always keen for everything that is Serbian, he was in this holy war of liberation, as a student-sergeant, started with great enthusiasm. His soldiers, with tears in their eyes, talking about his great courage and friendship to the soldiers.
Deceased Lebl studied with great diligence and success philosophy, the last two years worked as a journalist, in the office, he worked a full year as a conscientious and intelligent fellow.
Glory be to him! "

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In the heat of the Kolubara battle, at the moment when the Serbian army no longer had artillery munition (French and English were late with delivery), the Serbian High Command had only one option. They decided to send students to the battle, which were to the exhausted fighters entered refreshment and restore faith in the victory. Among them was sergeant Leon Lebl.
General Zivojin Misic has completely surprise the other generals and Supreme Command. He pulled his army deep into the background, trying to recover the soldiers retired from the enemy barrage. Austro-Hungarian Army does not know of this maneuver, and therefore is progressing very slowly and carefully. Harsh winter and dense fog were favorable circumstance for Serbian army.
After three days, the Serbian army was recovered and fully motivated.
Came the long awaited artillery munition.
At a time when European telegraph agency expected the news of the full collapse of the Serbian army and when the Austro-Hungarian Army V staged ceremonial parade in Belgrade, began a major counter-offensive of the entire Serbian army. Serbian army liberated Belgrade and completely removed the enemy from the country.
Huge impact on the great Serbian victory, had just students - sergeants, one of whom was a young Leon Lebl.
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