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Numerous NASA astronauts have spotted this elusive object since humans took to the skies in the 1960’s. The odd shape has been rumored to give off mysterious and unnatural radio waves. However, it’s been orbiting around Earth for nearly 13,000 years. If humans didn’t put it there, then who did?

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I have posted about that on the forum. I believe if it is human made, its orbit pattern points out towards an Israeli project (only the orbiting pattern of Israeli satellites is opposite to that of all other satellites in the world).
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You know I wish people would just give this subject the honest objective evaluation it deserves. If there is nothing there then show that but I and others like some of the astronauts have publicly stated there is fact and substance behind all this. Release the truth, investigate the facts, and bring it all out into the light of day for the people to see. What is so hard to undertand?
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You know I wish people would just give this subject the honest objective evaluation it deserves. If there is nothing there then show that but I and others like some of the astronauts have publicly stated there is fact and substance behind all this. Release the truth, investigate the facts, and bring it all out into the light of day for the people to see. What is so hard to undertand?
Agreed. I think the Government & "other" authorities are afraid this will challenge the status quo, aswell as it might cause panic and fear among many people, leading to all kinds of "groups" who will pretend they are ET experts and what not. On one hand I can understand, on the other, we are in 2016. I think with all that has happened in this world, a massive revelation of findings by the government will not shock as much as before, infact those who didnt believe will continue to find excuses of how it can be explained off as a natural phenomenon.

However with the way we see some reacting to things like Black Lives Matters, I dont blame the govt completely for trying to keep this under wraps. As people might start accusing one another of being aliens and a witch hunt of very humans begins based on false pretenses.

I believe the US Military has also benefited somewhat from technology gained on crash sites. The US had the technology itself to salvage and exploit such crashes. Telling the world the truth, will mean sharing this technology with the world and this will mean other nations will gain an advance on the United States.

Perhaps the most important thing we keep missing is these "beings" that have been visiting us since eons, are the ones seeing to it that things are kept secret. For good or bad reasons? Protecting us from other beings? Or simply because they dont think Humans havent even started to reach the spiritual, technological, scientific level to understand who they are.

It was reported in a book once, (reported doesnt mean its fact lol) that certain aliens consider us as too backwards & primitive to comprehend. They say, its like trying to explain to an animal things and even a somewhat more intelligent animal who seems to understand things other animals dont, is still an animal and limited. This is what they consider the level of most people on earth for another few hundred years until humans themselves become "aliens" and will understand finally.

However for those who have eyes to see, ears to hear, and a thirst for information based on their interest in the subject or even more serious, their own experiences that despite everything, still remain unexplained mostly, there is ample evidence from other "survivors" other fellow "abductees" out there that confirm and shed more light on this question. Some have had closer encounters, some less. Some have spoken to the beings. Some might be making stuff up, but you will be able to tell who mostly is telling the truth if one is truthful also.

Millions around the world have suffered this. So either this is a psychological & physiological ailment/disease that can produce memories and scars on the body that has not yet been identified by the medical community or something is really going on here.

You know who I am really angry at? Its not the government, they will do what government always do. It is the medical community, the psychiatric community who by their very oaths should be concerned about all this. This is affecting people in both mind and body and yet being "scientific" they brush it off as people "hurting themselves" "sleep disorders" and still cant explain it off when the scars are so weird or on parts of the body a person cannot even reach easily by themselves.

Scientists have dedicated more time to build laboratories to prove how the electrical waves in the brain can be manipulated to give the illusion of an alien abduction. These are the same people who deny the existence of God. They dont like any supernatural competition with their down to earth philosophy.

Worse even is the people who say they believe in God among them religious authorities who actually support the denials because like the government it will disturb the status quo, the religious establishment feels threatened, and others simple people who arent the establishment simply dont want any other beings to exist other than us and God. Makes it more simple for them, but truth is truth, if there are other beings out there, wouldnt it be a damn good idea to know who the hell they are before its too late?

The sheep enjoy their sleep, just as we blame liberals, the sheep are more widespread than we think.
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Exclamation 'Snipers caught lurking' by gates of mystery Area 51 to keep out intruders

DEADLY FORCE: 'Snipers caught lurking' by gates of mystery Area 51 to keep out intruders
NOSEY UFO hunters trying to sneak a peak at the top-secret Area 51 military base have been stalked by snipers and staked out by so-called 'black ops' helicopters, new videos have revealed.
By JON AUSTIN


http://www.express.co.uk/news/weird/...erious-Area-51

The road to Area 51 with (inset) a warning sign, chopper and armed guards.


Videos posted on YouTube show what happens when curious visitors reach the warning signs of the US Air Force secret facility deep in the Nevada desert.

In one, two men stumble across a secret rear entrance to Area 51, which they claim had warning signs saying use of deadly force is authorised.

They also claim that perched on top of a rocky hill was a sniper aiming a gun at them.

One of them said: "It looks like a sniper man. That is where the cammo guys are watching this from.

"And it says use of deadly force authorised."

The second man said: "What is that? If they're not holding some kind of incredible items why do they have what looks like guns.

"I didn't think it was as extreme as they say it is, we have been to every other gate and this is the only one that says use of deadly force.

"What do you have in there that is so secret, you going to have a sniper out there perched up on a hill?"

The pair then goad the "sniper" by passing the "don't cross" line and raising their hands towards the security.

In a separate video, another group arrive at the front gate to find themselves tracked by a so-called "black ops" helicopter.

Conspiracy theorists claim that black operations are secretive missions carried out by the military in unmarked vehicles, including choppers.

The group are standing by the main entrance, no entry signs, when a small black dot appears in the sky.

It then gets closer and close and louder and louder.

One man said: "We were standing up there on the top of the hill and a black ops helicopter came out and buzzed us and went out there and did a couple of figure of weights then came back at an angle.

"The bottom of it seemed to be close enough that we could hit it with a rock."

Another man in the group said: "He's turning this way, he's turning this way."

The unmarked chopper appeared above them and circled the group, before comic in for a closer approach.

For years conspiracy theorists have insisted Area 51 is where evidence of alien visitations of Earth are secretly held away from public view.

The top-secret Area 51 military base in the Nevada desert, USA, has intrigued and mystified UFO and alien chasers for years, particularly as the US Government only and reluctantly confirmed its existence in 2013.

The long-held myth is that the White House is well aware aliens visit Earth in flying saucers, and that sometimes they crash, or the crew are captured.

Alien conspiracy theorists claim when this happens the spacecraft, damaged or otherwise, are taken there for tests and storage to prevent the public ever finding out.

Ever since the US Air Force revealed in July 1947 that a flying saucer crashed in the desert outside Roswell, New Mexico, before retracting it with a statement that it was a weather balloon, the next day, conspiracy theorists have claimed the authorities are desperate to withhold the truth about aliens from us.

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NASA shuts down live Space Station feed as 'mysterious UFO enters atmosphere'
BY ELLE GRIFFITHS


http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/weird-n...tional-8408011


The incident caused speculation online - and is not the first time NASA have been accused of tampering with the feed


UFO (http://www.mirror.co.uk/all-about/ufos) spotters have raised the alarm after the International Space Station live feed cut out just as a large mysterious object appeared to enter Earth's atmosphere.

The incident occurred on July 9 and was first reported by prolific UFO hunter Streetcap1 in a video uploaded the same day.

The enthusiast did not directly imply that the object was an alien spacecraft saying: “This could well be a meteor or the like.

But he implied that the camera being turned off was slightly sinister: "What made it interesting was that the camera cut off when the UFO seemed to stop.”

Other enthusiasts put forward theories including one who suggested in could be the Chinese space cargo ship Tiangong-1.

“I have watched the International Space Station a lot over the last 6 years and I can tell you that this is not the moon, nor a meteor,” he wrote.

“It may be the Chinese space station cargo ship, called Tiangong-1, or the other one Tangong-2.”

This is not the first time that UFO hunters have accused NASA of cutting transmission after a mysterious UFO appeared on the live ISS stream.

A NASA spokesperson made a statement earlier in April denying allegations that NASA technicians deliberately shut down transmission when UFOs appear on the live video.

According to the spokesperson, NASA never intentionally shuts down live transmission to hide UFOs. Loss of video is usually due to loss of signals from the ISS.


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HAWKING: Must Find Aliens, Before They Find Us...
by Eric Mack


https://www.cnet.com/news/stephen-ha...-they-find-us/


Stephen Hawking is again warning about announcing our presence to any alien civilizations that might be out there, especially those that could be more technologically advanced.

In his new half-hour program "Stephen Hawking's Favorite Places" on science-themed subscription service CuriosityStream, the world's most famous theoretical physicist flies by the potentially habitable exoplanet Gliese 832c in a CGI spaceship as part of his hypothetical dream itinerary for a tour of the universe.

The super-Earth is only 16 light-years away and just the sort of world the Hawking-supported Breakthrough: Listen initiative hopes to scan for signs of alien signals using our most sensitive radio telescopes.

"If intelligent life has evolved (on Gliese 832c), we should be able to hear it," he says while hovering over the exoplanet in the animated "U.S.S. Hawking." "One day we might receive a signal from a planet like this, but we should be wary of answering back. Meeting an advanced civilization could be like Native Americans encountering Columbus. That didn't turn out so well."

It's a sentiment Hawking has expressed before. In fact, he's even used the same metaphor in other television programs over the years.

Hawking manages to be both worried about exposing our civilization to aliens and excited about finding them. He supports not only Breakthrough: Listen, but also Breakthrough: Starshot, another initiative that aims to send tiny nanocraft to our closest neighboring star system, which was recently found to have an Earth-like planet.

Not everyone agrees with Hawking that we should try to keep ourselves hidden from potential extra-terrestrial conquering races. Doug Vakoch, president of METI International, which is dedicated to researching, composing and sending messages from Earth to potential alien civilizations, explained on a recent CraveCast that we've already revealed ourselves through the myriad radio, television and other signals we've been sending out for nearly a century.

Ultimately, though, the argument over whether to reach out to E.T. could be a moot point, if, as some believe, aliens have already been in touch and visiting Earth for centuries.

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Exclamation Into The Fringe: A True Story of Alien Abduction

Into The Fringe: A True Story of Alien Abduction
by PhD, Dr. Karla Turner




I get that most people do not believe or accept this. If you have not been there yourself it is naturally impossible to believe. Dr. Karla Turner was and still is my favorite author on this field because she was becoming a personal friend before her death; which rocked me to my very core. I had met with her several times at conferences and had made plans to travel from Texas, where I was at the time to Arkansas (my birth state) to become one of her subjects at the time of her death. I cannot recommend her books on the subject highly enough as she had the greatest insight into this subject than anyone else in the field!!! Karla was way beyond anyone in her field and must reading for anyone who wants to try to understand what is going on! Read Them All!

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UFO expert found dead days after texting mum:
'Your boy's in trouble - if anything happens to me, investigate'
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http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news...d-days-9058279


Dad of two Max Spiers was found dead on a sofa days before he was meant to give a talk about conspiracy theories and UFOs

A conspiracy theorist (http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/weird-n...n-bolt-8682208) texted his mum to say 'If anything happens to me, investigate' just days before his mysterious death.

Max Spiers, 39, a father to two boys, was found dead on a sofa in Poland, where he had gone to give a talk about conspiracy theories and UFOs.

He was ruled to have died from natural causes despite no post-mortem(http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news...rn-son-8461007) examination being carried out on his body.

But his dark investigations into UFOs and government cover-ups may have made him enemies who wanted him dead, says mother Vanessa Bates, 63.

In a chilling text message to his mum just days before his death, Max wrote: "Your boy's in trouble. If anything happens to me, investigate."

Originally from Canterbury, Max lived in America for a few years, but had returned to the city to stay with his mother, before jetting off to Poland.

Vanessa said: "He was making a name for himself in the world of conspiracy theorists and had been invited to speak at a conference in Poland (http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-n...eaning-8967767) in July.

"He was staying with a woman who he had not known for long and she told me how she found him dead on the sofa.

"But I think Max had been digging in some dark places and I fear that somebody wanted him dead."

Max made a career out of investigating UFO sightings and alleged cover-ups.

More recently, he was said to be probing into the lives of well-known figures in politics, business and entertainment.

His unexplained death, and its subsequent treatment by the authorities, has left many online followers convinced he was killed by government agents.

Conspiracy theorists have long been convinced that UFO chasers who get too close to the truth are "bumped off" by the secret services or so-called men in black.

On one website, Project Camelot, a blogger wrote: "The entire circumstances are suspicious and I urge everyone to encourage the release of details about what really happened and call for an autopsy."

Another, Craig Hewlett, added: "If it wasn't true what he talks about then why would they kill him? Healthy people don't just get sick and die, they get poisoned (http://www.mirror.co.uk/3am/celebrit...r-john-9056358) ."

Mum Vanessa, an English teacher, also buys into the theories.

She said: "Max was a very fit man who was in good health and yet he apparently just died suddenly on a sofa.

"All I have is a death certificate from the Polish authorities that it was from natural causes, but no post-mortem was done so how can they tell that?

"They are also refusing to release any paperwork about it to me because, absurdly, I don't have his written permission."

Max was buried in Canterbury cemetery after his mother arranged to have his body flown home a week after his death.

A post-mortem examination was carried out by a pathologist in east Kent, but Vanessa says that more than two months later she still does not know the result, or whether there will be an inquest.

She added: "Apparently, he had not suffered any obvious physical injuries but he could have been slowly poisoned, which is why the results of toxicology tests from his post-mortem are so important.

"He has a brother, Josh, and sister, Becky, who are both devastated, as are his two boys. We all want answers to this and I will continue to fight to get to the truth."

The North East Kent coroner's office would only confirm the death was at the "very early" stages of investigation.

See videos and more material here> http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news...d-days-9058279

DR. TURNER KILLED FOR EXPOSING ALIENS


Dr Karla Turner ★ Murdered For Exposing Alien Greys UFO Alien Abductee – CIA Aliens Agenda:
http://beforeitsnews.com/alternative...a-2957948.html
To any and All Viewing this: I personally knew Dr Karla Turner and I will not stop supporting her and her work; PERIOD! You know very well who I am and where I am. I am nothing new to you.


What is about to happen to mankind is going to shake the majority of peoples FAITH to their very CORE. I believe I was allowed to experience what I have so I would not be deceived because their is a tremendous amount of deception involved in this subject. When you meet non-humans for the first time it is literally mind shattering for everything you have held as reality up until that time. I understand not believing any of it but when it happens to you everything changes. I have met and talked with Command Sergeant Major Robert O. Dean at length about the subject in the last video about UFOs and Aliens due to my experiences and contacts. Being an unwilling "volunteer" in this "program" from childhood with much of my participation in my memory that I learned early on not to share with others (human's be they my parents or others did not react well to my early sharing so I internalized everything). I was in my 30s before while at a HUFON (Houston UFO Network) event did I fill out a questionnaire in Houston, Tx did I expose myself and was contacted by HUFON.

While, I do not claim to understand what I witnessed. I do believe I experienced dimensional effects on at least one event as I don't see how it could be otherwise explained. I have seen craft "wrapped" in "fields" of different types that varied in colors one of which I had close personal contact with which would pass right through your body. It is very hard to explain. The dimensional aspects would explain time and other effects witnessed. I know I had to go through a massive paradigm shift.
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Muslim Cleric, Like Louis Farrakhan, Says Messiah Returning On A Machine 'Like A Spaceship'
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TEHRAN (Christian Examiner) – Shiite Muslims awaiting the return of the Mahdi – a messianic figure – can expect to see him return in a "spaceship" of sorts, Iran's Grand Ayatollah Naser Makarem Shirazi said in a recent interview (http://www.memri.org/report/en/0/0/0/0/0/0/9414.htm) about the apocalyptic figure.

According to the Middle East Media Research Institute (MEMRI - http://www.memri.org/), Shirazi said the figure's arrival will not be like in the olden days of Islam "with a sword." It will instead be "high-tech, as befits the modern age."

In Shiite Islam, the Mahdi – also called "the hidden imam (http://www.frontpagemag.com/fpm/261559/end-world-muhammad-mahdi-coming-dr-majid-rafizadeh)" because they believe he was born but disappeared – will return to cleanse the world of all evil in preparation for the final Day of Judgment. Shiites believe the Mahdi will be assisted in battling against a false messiah by Jesus.

“When it moves, it slashes the heart of the sky with extraordinary force, and in this way it can advance to any point in the firmament. Therefore, this is a super-modern vessel, and there is none like it today. It is like a spaceship and like other swift and amazing space vessels that are found [only] in stories today, but nobody knows how close [these vessels] come to truth and reality.”
- Grand Ayatollah Naser Makarem Shirazi


Though there is no description of any such figure in the Quran, several other Muslim writings (hadiths) contain information about the leader they believe will come. Sunnis also believe in a Mahdi who is to come.

Shirazi said one ancient source from the eighth century A.D. claimed the world would no longer need sunlight when the Mahdi comes because the land will be illuminated by "divine light."

"The interpretation of this saying is that the issue of light and energy is expressed in that both in daytime and nighttime powerful lights can replace sunlight," he said. In other words, the lights of the ship will provide light for humanity.

"Another hadith states: With regards to [the Mahdi], God elevates low places and lowers high places, so that the entire world is visible to him like the palm of his hand," he said.

"Today we use satellites [and by means of them] cover extensive areas, so that anyone with a receiver can use them .... In the time of the Mahdi's arrival, there will be a powerful apparatus that may be difficult for us to imagine today, for transmitting images so that the entire world is visible like the palm of a hand. Without worldwide control by an intelligence [apparatus], there can be no unified global regime [as foretold that there will be when the Mahdi arrives], and no peace, security, and decency... Therefore, God grants him this tool... Once again I stress that this is a routine matter, and that it is inconceivable that it will come about based on a miracle; rather [it will come about] by means of ordinary tools that are based on scientific and industrial advances."

Shirazi then discusses a "bestial vessel" which is reserved for the Mahdi.

"Bestial" means "like an animal," but it also means "savage" or "punishing." It isn't clear which Shirazi meant at the time, but he described the teaching of a particular hadith in detail. He said the vessel is as "loud as thunder and fast as lightning."

The Mahdi, he said, rides on it.

"Be aware that soon he will [appear] riding on clouds, and ascending to seven heavens and seven lands. This does not refer to an ordinary cloud, as clouds are not vessels that can be sailed upon in outer space. [Clouds] travel near the atmosphere that is close to the earth, and they cannot attain great altitudes. Therefore, the meaning here is an extraordinary and very swift vessel that looks like a dense cloud in the sky; its sound is that of thunder and its power and speed is that of lightning. When it moves, it slashes the heart of the sky with extraordinary force, and in this way it can advance to any point in the firmament. Therefore, this is a super-modern vessel, and there is none like it today. It is like a spaceship and like other swift and amazing space vessels that are found [only] in stories today, but nobody knows how close [these vessels] come to truth and reality."

“Who do you think then that you're dealing with, if you're the best in the world but you're thousands of years behind the technology on those wheels? I'm here to tell you, you are dealing with God. You have no weapon that can handle what is already prepared to take you out.”
- Louis Farrakhan, Nation of Islam


Shirazi said the craft, however, may not actually be a spaceship.

When the Mahdi arrives, according to the cleric, he will restore peace and criminals will be monitored using advanced technologies that listen into people's homes, so it "will be possible to understand what they [criminals, infidels] say at home."

While such discussions may seem foreign to westerners and Christians, other voices have said similar things, including Louis Farrakhan, leader of the Nation of Islam.

In August 2015, Farrakhan said – as he has many times before – that "wheels" in the sky (http://www.christianexaminer.com/art...ades/49336.htm) (such as in Ezekiel 1). He said the wheels, or UFOs, are instruments of divine judgment on white America.

"All of the governments are releasing their files on UFOs. America's holding back, [but] other nations are informing their people of the reality of what is above their heads," Farrakhan said.

"Who do you think then that you're dealing with, if you're the best in the world but you're thousands of years behind the technology on those wheels? I'm here to tell you, you are dealing with God. You have no weapon that can handle what is already prepared to take you out," Farrakhan said.

However, in Farrakhan's version of the tale of the Muslim messiah, it will not be an unknown or hidden figure. It will be Elijah Muhammad, whom he regards as the messiah.

http://www.christianexaminer.com/art...ship/51012.htm
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The Mahdi In a UFO

A prominent Iranian ayatollah says the Mahdi, the end-times Muslim savior, will come back in a spaceship with the sound “of thunder and its power and speed is that of lightning.”

http://www.globalwatchweekly.com/articlea01sep16.htm


Actually, his recent explanation wasn’t completely clear.

“It is like a spaceship and like other swift and amazing space vessels that are found [only] in stories today, but nobody knows how close [these vessels] come to truth and reality. Maybe it will be like [a spaceship] but in any case it is not a spaceship,” he said.

His description was discovered in an Iranian news report by the Middle East Media Research Institute, which monitors and analyzes media reports in the region.

The comments came from Grand Ayatollah Naser Makarem Shirazi, who operates his own website to promote his views.

He was responding to a question about the “arrival of the Mahdi – the Hidden Imam who is the equivalent of the Messiah in Shiite Islam,” MEMRI reported.

“He explained at length how the Mahdi’s arrival will be high-tech, as befits the modern age,” MEMRI said.

“House of War: Islam’s Jihad Against the World” conveys what the West needs to know about Islam and the violent, expansionary ideology that seeks the subjugation and destruction of other faiths, cultures and systems of government

His comments included:

“It was said by Imam Sadegh [the sixth Shiite imam, circa. 700–765 C.E.]: ‘When our Lord arrives, the land will be illuminated by divine light, and [God’s] creations will no longer require sunlight.’ The interpretation of this saying is that the issue of light and energy is expressed in that both in daytime and night time powerful lights can replace sunlight.”

“Today we use satellites [and by means of them] cover extensive areas, so that anyone with a receiver can use them… In the time of the Mahdi’s arrival, there will be a powerful apparatus, that may be difficult for us to imagine today, for transmitting images so that the entire world is visible like the palm of a hand. Without worldwide control by an intelligence [apparatus], there can be no unified global regime [as foretold that there will be when the Mahdi arrives], and no peace, security, and decency… Therefore, God grants him this tool… Once again I stress that this is a routine matter, and that it is inconceivable that it will come about based on a miracle; rather [it will come about] by means of ordinary tools that are based on scientific and industrial advances.”

“Another hadith states: ‘A bestial vessel is reserved for your Lord and Friend [the Mahdi]. What is the meaning of ‘bestial vessel’? A cloud that is loud as thunder and fast as lightning, upon which he rides. Be aware that soon he will [appear] riding on clouds, and ascending to seven heavens and seven lands.’ This does not refer to an ordinary cloud, as clouds are not vessels that can be sailed upon in outer space. [Clouds] travel near the atmosphere that is close to the earth, and they cannot attain great altitudes. Therefore, the meaning here is an extraordinary and very swift vessel that looks like a dense cloud in the sky; its sound is that of thunder and its power and speed is that of lightning. When it moves, it slashes the heart of the sky with extraordinary force, and in this way it can advance to any point in the firmament. Therefore, this is a super-modern vessel, and there is none like it today. It is like a spaceship and like other swift and amazing space vessels that are found [only] in stories today, but nobody knows how close [these vessels] come to truth and reality. Maybe it will be like [a spaceship] but in any case it is not a spaceship… “

“When the Mahdi rules, the pure will have the height of freedom, and the criminals will be monitored – maybe so much so that sound waves will be detected from the walls of their houses, and when necessary it will be possible to understand what they say at home.”

“Perhaps a century ago, this statement [about detecting sound waves] would have seemed like an unimaginable miracle. Yet today, some countries monitor traffic on the roads using radar, with no police present. Therefore, it is clear that during the global revolution of the Mahdi… there will be an unprecedented expansion of industry and technology.”


During a speech made in front of the United Nations in September 2008, Ahmadinejad beseeched Allah to “hasten the emergence” of the Mahdi.

“Oh mighty Lord,” he said, “I pray to you to hasten the emergence of your last repository (a euphemism for Mahdi), the promised one, that perfect and pure human being, the one that will fill this world with justice and peace.”

It was reported that Ahmadinejad’s direct reference to the Mahdi left the audience of diplomats with their mouths hanging open.

So it was probably non suprising that a number of years later the Iranian government produced a bone chilling documentary about an Islamic prophecy in which they as leaders would wage war to bring about the arrival of the Hidden Imam, which the film says is “very close” to happening. The documentary video, "The Coming is Near," released by the Iranian government promotes the idea that the Mahdi, an apocalyptic Muslim messiah, is about to return to usher a new Islamic civilization. The documentary is based on Twelver Muslim theology to which many of Iran's highest leaders subscribe.

Twelver Muslims are a branch of Shia (Shiite) Islam. Shiites and Sunnis, two factions prominent in the Iraq War, split after the death of Mohammed in A.D. 632 in a disagreement over who his successor should be. Sunnis, the dominant branch of Islam, believe that leadership should be by elected leaders, while Shiites believe that Muslim leaders should come from Mohammed's family line.

The Shia believe that there were twelve such leaders, called imams, although many Shia religious leaders use the title today. The twelfth imam, Imam al-Mahdi, lived in Samarra, Iraq and was last seen in A.D. 874. Twelvers believe that the Mahdi is in "occultation," in the spirit world, where he is still alive. They believe that he will one day return during a time of world chaos to usher in a worldwide Islamic caliphate (kingdom).

According to the Iranian documentary, the second coming of the Mahdi will occur in the near future. Although the Mahdi is not mentioned in the Quran, his return is discussed the hadiths, collections of narrative sayings by Islamic leaders. Some of the signs of the Mahdi's return discussed in the film include fear, earthquakes, and sedition throughout the world. Cultural decay, such as adultery, homosexuality, and women not wearing the hejab (head scarf and/or veil) are also cited.

The film addresses recent world events and singles out the United States and Israel as sources of evil in the world. It also specifically points to several nations that the film's producers believe are keys to the return of the Mahdi. Most obviously, Iraq, home to many of the world's Shiites, is mentioned. Twelvers believe that Iraq will be central to the conflicts that precede the Mahdi's return as well as the eventual capitol of the Mahdi's worldwide Islamic caliphate. In the final battle against Israel, Iraqi forces will march under flags that say "Alghovah."

The film also mentions Yemen, one of many Arab nations where protesters are demanding the resignation of the ruling authoritarian government. The film focuses on the Shiite guerrillas allied with al- Qaeda. Yemen was the origin of several bombs sent to the U.S. and U.K. in October 2010. According to the hadiths about the Mahdi, Yemen will be the embroiled in a revolution prior to the Mahdi's second coming. When the Mahdi returns, one of his first battles will be against an army of one of the Yemeni tribes. Yemeni soldiers will be among the first to enter Mecca after the Mahdi's return.

The hadiths also refer to turmoil in Egypt. The filmmakers say that that the people of Egypt were prophesied to rise up and kill their leader, plunging the country into turmoil. The people of Egypt in 2011 ousted their dictator, Hosni Mubarak, but they did not kill him. The Egyptian revolution and take over by the Muslim Brotherhood had been relatively peaceful until 2013 when there was an uprising against the Muslim Brotherhood forcing it out of power.

Saudi Arabia, the location of Mecca, also is found the film's interpretation of Islamic prophecy. The hadiths mention a royal line that some Muslim theologians believe is the house of Saud. The death of a Saudi king named Abdullah was one of the key signs of the Mahdi's return. It stated that the death of Saudi King Abdullah would be a major sign that the destruction of Israel and arrival of the Mahdi are imminent.


The film almost immediately states, “Whoever guarantees the death of King Abdullah in Saudi Arabia, I will guarantee the imminent reappearance of the Mahdi,” a not-so-subtle call for his assassination. The film later refers to his “uncertain condition,” as at the time he was ill and at 86 years old his demise was not far off. So when King Abdullah died in early 2014 it clearly sent Islamic eschatology of the richter scale.

It is perhaps unsurprising to anyone familiar with the Middle East that the Twelvers believe that Palestine (Israel) is also central to their end-time prophecies. Imam Ali, the first imam after the Sunni-Shia split, said that Jews would come from the west and take control of Palestine while Arabs were divided. According the film, Jewish control would last "until the time that the Arabs rid themselves of the influence of others, take back control of their affairs, and once again have strong determination. At that time, they shall conquer the land of Palestine and the Arabs will be victorious and united." The destruction of Israel is the most important event marking the Mahdi's return.

For more on this subject matter see http://www.thefinalcrusade.com, especially part 5 called "Islamic Apocalypse".

http://www.globalwatchweekly.com/articlea01sep16.htm
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