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rld’s leading manufacturers of advanced fighter aircraft. It is one of six companies in contention for India’s $10 billion (Rs.44,500 crore) medium multi-role combat aircraft (MMRCA) deal. The company’s supervisory board met in India for the first time on 25-26 October.


Bernhard Gerwert, chief executive, Cassidian Air Systems (formerly EADS Military Air Systems), and chairman, supervisory board, Eurofighter; Enzo Casolini, chief executive, Eurofighter; and Christopher Boardman, managing director, Typhoon Mission Support and International Programmes, BAE Systems, discussed the deal in an interview. Edited excerpts:

Eurojet’s EJ200 lost out in the race to be the engine for the Mark-II version of the light combat aircraft (LCA). What do you think went against the EJ200? The consultant for Eurojet reportedly had privileged information on the bids

Gerwert: We were not involved in Eurojet’s campaign. The EJ200 of course, being the engine, is important for the Eurofighter. But we do not have enough knowledge about the offer of Eurojet for the LCA. We, however, recognize that the decision has been taken and the GE engine was declared as the lowest bidder. We have no shareholding in Eurojet. It is a supplier for us, and a totally independent company, so I believe it will not affect our campaign for MMRCA.
By when do you see a shortlist coming, if at all? By when do you see the final MMRCA deal being signed?


Gerwert: What we know is that the flight evaluation is over and that the Indian Air Force (IAF) has submitted the report to the ministry of defence. The offset offers are being discussed. I expect the commercial envelopes to be opened soon, in the next few weeks or months.
There is talk of cuts to defence programmes in Europe. Italy reduced its order of Eurofighter jets by 25 and several European countries grounded their fleet, citing security concerns. Does this affect how the aircraft is perceived?


Casolini: Officially, there is no document that suggests that Italy has reduced its order for the Eurofighter. We have a total commitment of 620 aircraft, under the so-called four-nation “umbrella contract”, and we’re sticking to that till someone officially comes to us and tells us they don’t have the money and so have to reduce or cancel the contract. As for your other question, the fleet was grounded in all the countries due to a problem related to the ejection system, which was solved within a week.


Boardman: The UK has had to make some tough decisions in the current economic climate, but it’s chosen to retire its older aircraft, the Harrier, and has reaffirmed its investment commitment into Eurofighter.
You have reportedly said that if you win the MMRCA contract, you will move avionics operations and a few thousand jobs from Europe to India. In the light of the above situation, isn’t that a bit too far fetched?


Gerwert: We already have an EADS engineering centre in Bangalore, which was started three years ago for Airbus. In the beginning of this year, we have also opened our military engineering centre in Bangalore. We have hired 20 engineers there, but our intention is to ramp up our strength to 250-300 people by 2012. This programme is independent from the Eurofighter. So, for the moment, we are not talking of moving thousands of jobs to India. If, however, the Eurofighter is selected, then we would be contractually bound to effect a 60% technology transfer. So, if India decides for the Eurofighter, the technology transfer clause would mean that we would create thousands of jobs in India.


There have, however, been several cost over-runs in the Eurofighter programme. What do you have to say about that?


Boardman: You can take up any big defence programme in the world, and they have all had cost over-runs at some point or the other. In Europe, national audits have found that almost all our programmes have met their targets. The contractors in Europe will tell you that we deliver within the set cost parameters.


Gerwert: On the production contract for the Eurofighter, we do not have any cost over-runs. We signed the contract in 1998, and we have exactly been within our cost parameters.
The Airbus A400M military transporter is reportedly facing technical and financial problems. Reports say it is uncertain to win a $35 billion US contract for 179 tanker aircraft. What do you have to say on that?


Gerwert: Yes, that was the case until last year, but that has now been resolved. We have renegotiated the A400M contract and the first flights in spring 2010 have been very successful. Airbus did not lose the contract for the tanker aircraft, they, in fact, won it. Airbus won the contract, but the US government cancelled it, after Airbus was selected. Now, there is a new request for proposal on the table, and Airbus has answered it.




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The cover story of the latest edition of Eurofighter World has the company squaring up the Typhoon with the F-22 Raptor. It's a 5thGen fixation of sorts for the folks at Eurofighter, some of it fairly compelling. In their last edition, they took generous swipes at the F-35.


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Default Work Officially Set To Begin On LCA Tejas MK-II

India's Aeronautical Development Agency (ADA) is currently in a blur trying to meet two heavy-duty milestones in the Light Combat Aircraft (LCA) programme -- the first flight of the carrier-borne LCA Navy in the next few weeks and initial operational clearance (IOC) of the primary air force variant of the light fighter by Christmas. But with a decision finally made recently that the GE F414 will power the MK-II, work has officially started at ADA on a part of the programme that will finally deliver a full-fledged multirole fighter plane -- the Tejas MK-II.

The next one year will see most of the Tejas team focused on the landmark induction of the LCA into operational service with the Indian Air Force. But a wing of ADA, headed by Principal Director H Siddesha, will kickstart a string of parallel processes to get the souped up MK-II variant of the fighter jet going.

Along with a team from GE, ADA will shortly begin multidisciplinary design optimisation (MDO) of the Tejas airframe for its new engine, and therefore, operational envelope, computational fluid dynamic (CFD) studies of all new components, failure mode, effect & analysis of aeroengine components, fresh numerical master geometry & inboard drawings, a digital mockup of the entire MK-II, and of course, a wind tunnel model.

Immediately, however, the team will embark on the all-important tasks of F414 engine-airframe bay interference studies and clearance, powerplant and fuel systems design and optimisation, integration and then ground tests.
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India is planning to buy up to 300 co-produced fifth-generation fighters and 45 military transport aircraft from Russia, the Indian defense minister said on Thursday.
"Over the next decade, Russian-Indian military cooperation will focus on two projects: transport aircraft and a fifth-generation fighter," said Russian Defense Minister Anatoly Serdyukov, who is on a two-day visit to India.
The jointly-produced fifth generation fighter will not be a copy of the existing Sukhoi T-50 prototype ordered for the Russian Air Force, but will be a separate creation, a high-profile source in the Russian delegation in New Delhi said.
The countries are planning to unveil a one-seater and a two-seater version of the fighter by 2015-2016.
The costs are planned to be shared by the two states fifty-fifty.
The Times of India earlier said India may invest over $25 billion on buying fifth-generation fighters for its Air Force.
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Russia is planning to sign in December an agreement with India on the preliminary design of a joint fifth-generation fighter aircraft, a senior Russian aircraft industry official said on Wednesday.
Russian Sukhoi holding and Indian Hindustan Aeronautics Limited (HAL) agreed in early 2010 to jointly develop a fifth-generation fighter jet, tentatively dubbed PAK FA.
"An agreement with India on the pre-design of the PAK FA will be signed in December," said Alexei Fyodorov, head of Russia's United Aircraft Corporation.
The sides agreed to develop both a single-seat and a two-seat version of the aircraft by 2016, focusing on the single-seat version in the initial stages of development.
The new aircraft will most likely be based on Russia's T-50 prototype fifth-generation fighter, which has already made several test flights and is expected to join the Russian Air Force in 2015.
Russia has been developing its fifth-generation fighter since the 1990s. The current prototype, known as the T-50, was designed by the Sukhoi design bureau and built at a plant in Komsomolsk-on-Amur in Russia's Far East.
Russian officials have already hailed the fighter as "a unique warplane" that combines the capabilities of an air superiority fighter and attack aircraft.
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The cover story of the latest edition of Eurofighter World has the company squaring up the Typhoon with the F-22 Raptor. It's a 5thGen fixation of sorts for the folks at Eurofighter, some of it fairly compelling. In their last edition, they took generous swipes at the F-35.
The Eurofighter Typhoon is an impressive aircraft within its intended role, but the Eurofighter folks are only making themselves look foolish when they try to draw comparisons with the Raptor. In comparison to the F-22 the Typhoon falls short in terms of range (yes, there's a reason why the F-22 is bigger), thrust-to-weight ratio (and by extension, acceleration), wing loading (and by extension turn rate), supercruise (which doesn't help you if you don't have any missiles), and radar (the F-22 has a fully operational AESA radar system, with all of the inherent benefits in range and countermeasures - the Typhoon is still bragging about what they might have someday, assuming its fully funded), not to mention low observables.

Let's just say that the Typhoon has lost its fair share of international competitions to other 4+ generation fighters (upgraded F-15s and F-16s anyone?), much less against the Raptor (which several nations have begged to be able to buy). I don't see Japan, Australia or Israel begging to buy the Typhoon. The Eurofighter boys need to stop embarrasing themselves.
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NEW DELHI, Nov. 4 (UPI) -- Lockheed Martin said it improved its version of the F16IN Super Viper on offer to India under the country's largest ever combat aircraft tender.


The corporation's tailor-made advanced F-16IN aircraft for the Indian air force has improved electronic scanned array radar, enhanced high-thrust engine and larger weapons inventory.




"The F-16 has a long history of operations around the world," Michael R. Griswold, director of advance development program at Lockheed Martin, told reporters. "The F-16 that we are offering here to India is by no means the end of the line of F-16s. In fact, it represents the beginning of what we think is great future for F-16 in India."


The F-16 Fighting Falcon, originally made by General Dynamics, first flew in 1974 and was inducted into the U.S. Air Force in 1978. In 1993, General Dynamics sold its aircraft manufacturing business to the Lockheed Corp., which became part of Lockheed Martin after a 1995 merger with Martin Marietta.


More than 4,400 of the F-16 aircraft have been built since production was approved in 1976. No units are sold in the United States any more but upgraded versions are available to export customers, such as India and Pakistan.


Air trials in India have finished for the most part and Lockheed also has shown additional features to the Indian air force during laboratory testing. "We had to provide new capability beyond what the F-16 block has," said Griswold.


Lockheed is one of six aircraft manufacturers chasing the $9.5 billion contract for 126 aircraft under the Medium Multi-Role Combat Aircraft Competition, known as the MRCA. Up to 20 of the first units will be purchased from overseas manufacturing bases. The rest of the planes must be produced in India through stringent technology transfer agreements.


Delivery will start within 36 months of contract signing and be completed 48 months later.
Also in the running for the MRCA are the Eurofighter Typhoon, Dassault-Rafale, Saab JAS 39 Gripen, Mikoyan MiG-35 and the Boeing F/A-18E/F Super Hornet.


The acquisition is strategically important for India because of its aging jet-fighter fleet.


The air force attained 44 squadrons during the 1980s after acquiring Mirage 2000, MiG-29 and Jaguar aircraft. But many of the air force's older aircraft -- mostly MiG planes including MiG-21 units -- are obsolete with some not airworthy and others lost to accidents. As a result, the country has 32 squadrons, a worry for Indian defense officials as they believe the country's air superiority over Pakistan could be threatened.

The Indian air force phased out the MiG-23MF air-defense interceptor in 2007 and retirements of MiG-23BN ground-attack aircraft began in March 2009. The MiG-23s will be replaced by MRCA winner.


The F-16IN is based on the F-16E/F Block 60 version supplied to the United Arab Emirates and conformal fuel tanks, AN/APG-80 active electronically scanned array radar, GE F110-132A engine with 32,000 pounds of thrust and an electronic warfare suite with infra-red searching and helmet-mounted cueing system.



In April, during an interview in Dallas, Orville Prins, Lockheed's vice president of business development in India, praised the F-16IN version of the F-16 "I can assure you, the Super Viper is much more advanced in all aspects than the F-16s being given to Pakistan," he said.


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In the midst of persistent recent rumours of frontrunners in India's medium multirole combat aircraft (M-MRCA) competition, an explosive new piece of buzz -- and an assertion in the latest issue of India's most widely read news magazine -- now suggest that the Lockheed-Martin F-16 is no longer in the reckoning for the Indian $12-billion 126-fighter prize. And with the MiG-35 long out of the competition, it's now effectively a four-horse game being fought between the Eurofighter Typhoon, Dassault Rafale, Boeing F/A-18 Super Hornet and the Saab Gripen NG/IN.

Two points: First, the Indian Air Force has refused to comment officially on specific progress in the MMRCA competition, but an IAF officer familiar with developments at Air Force HQ has indicated to a select group of journalists, on condition of anonymity, that the Indian Air Force and Ministry of Defence specifically agree that there is no sense in purchasing a platform that the US is already supplying to Pakistan (notwithstanding the assertion that the variant on offer to India is far more advanced). This, especially when the F-16 has come to symbolise the irritation India nurses against the stubborn rhetoric South Block faces from the US when it registers its disquiet at billions of dollars worth of conventional weapons being supplied hand over fist to Pakistan supposedly for the war against terror.

Second, and more importantly, the latest issue of INDIA TODAY magazine (Nov 15) suggests that pretty unambiguously as well. The cover story, co-authored by senior editor Sandeep Unnithan, notes, "US supplies to Pakistan have effectively nixed the F-16's prospects at being selected as one of the two US contenders for the IAF's $12-billion fighter tender for its Medium Multi-Role Combat Aircraft."

I'm awaiting comments from Lockheed-Martin. Stay tuned. Do please note that the Indian Air Force and Ministry of Defence have not confirmed this information. Also note that there have been several rumours in the past pertaining to specific eliminations from the lucrative MMRCA competition (Lockheed has, in fact, commented in the past on specific rumours), and none of them have been confirmed one way or the other. The competition remains ongoing, with the Ministry of Defence expected to make a single type selection in or around July 2011.

Lockeed-Martin has responded to the assertion in the INDIA TODAY cover story (see above). Here it is in full: "President Obama has expressed India’s and the US’s shared interest in a stable Pakistan, free of terrorist enclaves. We have heard nothing that would suggest the Indian government would eliminate either US competitor from the competition because of US engagement with Pakistan. On the contrary, we are very confident, based on the results of the Field Evaluation Trials, that the F-16IN Super Viper is fully compliant with India’s requirements. The F-16IN incorporates capabilities based upon lessons learned from combat and was the only MMRCA competitor to demonstrate an operational Active Electronically Scanned Array (AESA) radar in India, the core of the weapon system. This will be the finest F-16 ever built."

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The European-made Typhoon fighter is winning the fight for the $11.5bn (£7.1bn) contract to supply 126 fighters to the Indian Air Force in a deal worth $5 billion and 2,000 new jobs to Britain.


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The European-made Typhoon fighter is winning the fight for the $11.5bn (£7.1bn) contract to supply 126 fighters to the Indian Air Force in a deal worth $5 billion and 2,000 new jobs to Britain.


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The British never cease to root for the home team. If India really is looking for a medium multirole combat aircraft as they had claimed, the Typhoon is about the last platform they should buy. It's too heavily biased towards the air-to-air mission.
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The British never cease to root for the home team. If India really is looking for a medium multirole combat aircraft as they had claimed, the Typhoon is about the last platform they should buy. It's too heavily biased towards the air-to-air mission.

You are right about Typhoon, it an air superiority fighter not a multirole jet InAF is looking for. IMHO, Rafale or Super Hornet will serve the purpose better. LEts wait and watch what MoD and its corrupt staff decides.

+ Eurofighter guys are making fools of themselves by making absurd claims.
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Dunno Blueblood, I'v heard some great things about Typhoon from a couple of serving Brits.....
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Yes indeed, Typhoon is a great fighter ( I never questioned its capabilities ) but that is not what IAF is looking for ( pls keep in mind that the competition is for multi role not air superiority). IAF is phasing out its Mig 23 and 27 and JAguars so its their replacement we need.

But still it no match for F-35 and F-22 as Eurofighter folks are claiming.
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Yes indeed, Typhoon is a great fighter ( I never questioned its capabilities ) but that is not what IAF is looking for ( pls keep in mind that the competition is for multi role not air superiority). IAF is phasing out its Mig 23 and 27 and JAguars so its their replacement we need.

But still it no match for F-35 and F-22 as Eurofighter folks are claiming.
True true and spoken with a mouthful of teeth me friend, but we don't really have JSF and suchlike options available to us, Jaguar replacement hmm, am sceptical about that, I mean really I don't see why we have this great urge to turn an air superiority fighter into a bomb truck for multi-role stuff when we don't even have a doctrine that calls for a bombing intensive mission mission a la the US of A, hey if we wanted that we might as well go in for the F-16 innit then, thing is, they keep adding on to the requirements and it all gets hodge podged, Gripen looked perfectly good to me when this darn bid started and look where its ended up now.
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Well, I think sooner or later India will be offered F-35 for both IAF and INAA.

http://www.defenseworld.net/go/defen...20India%202011

I know Jaguar is upgraded to DARIN status but it is just a stop gap measure as the platform is nearly 40 years old.

Don't you think that a dedicated multi role like Rafale or SH is better than Typhoon. Not in favor of F-16 or Gripen.
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Originally Posted by blueblood View Post
Well, I think sooner or later India will be offered F-35 for both IAF and INAA.
L&M has already offered India the F-35 only if F-16 wins MMRCA contract.
IMHO India should go with F/A-18 which is economical compared to both Rafale or Typhoon and also not bad if you look at technical aspects.
Hornet would help India acquire F-35 but Typhoon will surely cost double the price, including thrust vector.
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