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Old 06-20-2010, 04:08 PM
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Shalom,

I think it deserves a topic. Many of us plan to join the IDF soon. True that IDF will train us, but it is still better if we are in good shape.

Could someone, maybe Rafi write us a good dietary?
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Shalom,

I think it deserves a topic. Many of us plan to join the IDF soon. True that IDF will train us, but it is still better if we are in good shape.

Could someone, maybe Rafi write us a good dietary?
Jewish dietary are a way of life, not a training method for the army.

I am not sure I understand what guidance you want that you might not get from a Rabbi.

The standard IDF menu is as good (or bad) as any army mess hall in the world. THere is no such thing as "kosher style", that term is usually for people who do not follow our people's ditary laws, but pick and choose what to follow so they refer to the food and themselves as "jewish style".
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Can I give my opinion. I personally would say a diet free from unprocessed food as much as possible to get you healthy before you get to Israel.

Three meals a day with healthy snacks. A good balance of protein, carbohydrates etc. A calorie intake up to your basal metabolic rate (or slightly less if your body mass index is higher than normal). A multivitamin and mineral pill, plenty of exercise - just healthy diet and exercise.

Whether kosher or non kosher the above is what everyone should follow really, although it is easier to stick to the rules of diet and exercise when there is a good incentive, which you obviously have.

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Can I give my opinion. I personally would say a diet free from unprocessed food as much as possible to get you healthy before you get to Israel.

Three meals a day with healthy snacks. A good balance of protein, carbohydrates etc. A calorie intake up to your basal metabolic rate (or slightly less if your body mass index is higher than normal). A multivitamin and mineral pill, plenty of exercise - just healthy diet and exercise.

Whether kosher or non kosher the above is what everyone should follow really, although it is easier to stick to the rules of diet and exercise when there is a good incentive, which you obviously have.

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Thank you for the welcome back!
You gave excellent advice.

The only concern would be the shock to your body after eating so healthy,then getting to an IDF base where everything is made in oil.

Our Motzei Shabbos meal last Saturday night was Pasta in tomatoe sauce, French Fries, and cottage cheese. At 10PM. How's that for a meal to sleep on?
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A good falafel sandwich is always good & so tasty!


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Yes, but at least Reform Jew will be fit when he gets there if his diet is nutritious before he leaves. By the way pasta, tomato sauce and cottage cheese is an absolutely fantastically well balanced meal! Ok, the fries aren't so wonderful if fried, but the military need some treats. I am not sure I would eat that meal though. Also I guess nutritionists have a say regarding calorie control etc., as you don't want fat soldiers do you?!

I think he is thinking of being of optimum fitness from day one in Eretz Yisrael. He wont want to feel sluggish and unfit. Even someone of normal weight can be malnourished and someone overweight well nourished.

That picture of fellafel looks wonderful!
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Wow thank you very much Forums Addict!
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That's ok! Being fit before getting there by eating unprocessed foods and cutting out junk food, exercise and sufficient sleep for several weeks before you arrive there will at least make you feel physically well and able to withstand hard work and a different way of life and climate.
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It really depends on your objectives. Do you want to gain weight, or lose weight? Perhaps you want to maintain the same body weight but simply improve your body composition?

As Forums Addict has said, you need to base your total intake on your objectives. So if you want to gain weight, you need to make sure that your total caloric intake is sufficient given your amount of exercise. So even if you're increasing your caloric intake, it needs to be sufficient to still allow weight gain given how much you're burning.

Put simply, you can look at your body weight as being a function of your total caloric expenditure and your total caloric intake. As you manipulate these variables, your body weight will change. More specifically, as you manipulate the variables of the breakdown of your diet (the types of foods that compose your total caloric intake) with the variables of how you burn calories (the kinds of exercise you do), you will see changes in what parts of your body adapt and improve. So for example, ensuring that your diet is balanced with a healthy variety of foods as well as a smart exercise plan with resistance training will lead to bigger and stronger muscles.

There's also the issue of caordiovascular conditioning, but that's not very visible in the mirror. The adaptations that occur as a result of regular cardio may include fat loss, but necessarily lead to improved cardiovascular function (stronger heart, expanded and more extensive arteries/vessels/capillaries, increased lung efficiency with respect to oxygen extraction, etc), which can't be seen in the mirror.
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A lesson Rafi Will tell you when you get to Israel eat as much as you can! because you wont know when your next meal will be.
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Just eat lots of fresh vegetables and fruits and not too much sugar and junkfood.
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When i asked an old man the same,he told me to eat breakfast like a king, lunch like a prince and dinner like a beggar!!! Lol
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Just eat lots of fresh vegetables and fruits and not too much sugar and junkfood.
I would certainly agree with you Nicole. Since my back surgery in May thats what I've been doing. Plus, cutting out processed meats and salt. Also lots of exercising by way of stretching, isometrics and many miles of walking.
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....... Plus, cutting out processed meats and salt.........
Excellent work!

I can't think of a better way to prepare for eating Loof.
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Excellent work!

I can't think of a better way to prepare for eating Loof.
I didn't know what you were talking about Rafi so I goggled it and got a hit on an Israeli post all about Loof. Aka American spam or beef in a can or mystery beef. Funny thing, we just bought two cans of spam today for our bug out bags. I wonder what the sodium content is?
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I didn't know what you were talking about Rafi so I goggled it and got a hit on an Israeli post all about Loof. Aka American spam or beef in a can or mystery beef. Funny thing, we just bought two cans of spam today for our bug out bags. I wonder what the sodium content is?
I will be throwing away our spam from our bug out bags. Three cans of spam in a day would be 3240 calories and about 10,500 to 14,500 mgs of sodium....egads.
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Correct.

Loof is battle rations. It's main ingrediants are
processed beef and sodium. The sodium kills the cow lips taste.

If you serve in the IDF, you will end up at some point debating going
to sleep hungry with your stomach growling, or going to bed full with your
stomach growling.

So the naivite' of your post just struck me as hilarious.

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Correct.

Loof is battle rations. It's main ingrediants are
processed beef and sodium. The sodium kills the cow lips taste.

If you serve in the IDF, you will end up at some point debating going
to sleep hungry with your stomach growling, or going to bed full with your
stomach growling.

So the naivite' of your post just struck me as hilarious.

The sodium kills the cow lips taste. Thats funny stuff and I don't care who you are.

When I mentioned processed meats I was thinking more in the line of Budwig brand sliced meats. You know, its sliced so thin that you can see through a slice and its held together by salt.

Battle rations, eh?

If I was headed for the bush I'd grab tins of chocolate, pound cake and peaches out of the C-rations box. Do your troops get anything like that
to eat?
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http://www.mreinfo.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=1894


No, the cardboard box is not edible.


We've tried.
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http://www.mreinfo.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=1894


No, the cardboard box is not edible.


We've tried.
LOL..I don't fancy cardboard myself..Thanks for the link. I found it interesting. I think, I could eat some of the food in the Manot Krav except the Loof. Why don't you guys gather up all the cans of spam and chuck them at the enemy.
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