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Tokyo 10-13-2006 06:37 PM

Iran Navy vs U.S Navy
 
The Confrontation between Iran and United States Navy. (Many photos from the U.S. Navy archives)

http://www.iranmilitary.net/forum/sh...?p=383#post383

kryp 10-13-2006 07:45 PM

lol
iran's navy cant beat israel\eygpt navy, how can they do anything aginst usa

Guy 10-13-2006 11:58 PM

Iran's navy is now building itself in order to be a " state of the art " by Iran's definition to Advanced.

But all in all, no matter how much new toys they will present, all the " stealth " missiles they claim to have, they wont last a day againts the US Navy. its like a 5 year old trying to fight a 20 year old.
If he'll punch him in the face really hard it might hurt for 30 seconds, but nothing more than that.

Rascal 10-14-2006 01:33 AM

It is much the same situation when comparing Irans airforce also.

Can you just picture Irans old Phantoms F-4's going against F/A-18's

mr.perfect 10-14-2006 01:37 AM

the whole thread is one big jock

Guy 10-14-2006 05:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mr.perfect (Post 4889)
the whole thread is one big jock


You have a shark in your signature :\

Tokyo 10-14-2006 10:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mr.perfect (Post 4889)
the whole thread is one big jock

So you like Big Jocks huh? :biggrin: I knew it the wholetime!:shhh:

Joke not Jock!

And no it isn't a joke, I saw when they brought the dead and wounded Iranians back, it was ****ing horrible. Believe me there was no Joke there!

They couldn't even find half the bodies!

mr.perfect 10-15-2006 02:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tokyo (Post 4951)
So you like Big Jocks huh? :biggrin: I knew it the wholetime!:shhh:

Joke not Jock!

And no it isn't a joke, I saw when they brought the dead and wounded Iranians back, it was ****ing horrible. Believe me there was no Joke there!

They couldn't even find half the bodies!

no you are the one,

you editing your post and then accusing me,
when you created this thread you where asking about our thoughts that what we think about it, i merely stated the two navies are not comparable in anyways(the thread is a joke)

now you putting link here and tell me i am joke, yes if i am joke you are one big fat liar.

Tokyo 10-15-2006 06:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mr.perfect (Post 4978)
no you are the one,

you editing your post and then accusing me,
when you created this thread you where asking about our thoughts that what we think about it, i merely stated the two navies are not comparable in anyways(the thread is a joke)

now you putting link here and tell me i am joke, yes if i am joke you are one big fat liar.

1st- I never asked for anyones opinion

2nd- I was not comparing the 2 navies, I just posted fotos of a confrontation between Iran & United States that happened when you were 4 years old.

3rd- I never called you a Joke, or a Jock. You don't know the diference between the 2 words do you?

4th- I never edited my post and I never accused you of anything but liking Jocks in pink color!

Topmaul 11-19-2006 10:29 PM

The U.S. Navy could destroy all of Iran

PILMAN 11-19-2006 11:11 PM

I find it quite hilarious how so many people in the world including much of the liberal american population underestimate the US military power. Iran's navy is a joke compared to the US navy and that's fact. The only issue is the manpower at this moment in time. However if the US doesn't occupy Iran it will be a peice of cake.

Jordan 11-20-2006 12:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PILMAN (Post 6005)
I find it quite hilarious how so many people in the world including much of the liberal american population underestimate the US military power. Iran's navy is a joke compared to the US navy and that's fact. The only issue is the manpower at this moment in time. However if the US doesn't occupy Iran it will be a peice of cake.

Under estimating the U.S. navy is a mistake and so is over estimating it. Spending a lot of money on the military/navy doesn't make it invincible, but very it does make it very 'scary'. Which is the U.S.'s greatest defense... the fact no country with a conventional army really wants to go to war with the U.S.

Tyrael 11-21-2006 12:46 PM

About half of US nuclear warheads are based on Ohio-class submarines.....which are under the command of US Navy:))):wink:

Birmingham 11-25-2006 04:03 AM

The only thing that would bother me is the unconventional. For example, if Iran outfits hundreds of highspeed powerboats as suicide weapons and launches dozens or several dozen of these suicide craft against one US Navy ship. We saw what happened with the USS Cole. If you sink 27 of these suicide craft, and 3 still get through, you got problems. The 5" is too slow firing and is more for shore bombardment. Few of the Phalanx anti-missile guns have the updates for surface engagement. You only have one 25mm deck gun on each side. Leaving you with .50 and .30 machine guns. And I am not sure a waterbore version of a "human wave attack" might not have one or two successes.
While saying that, a conventional attack by the Iranian navy would be like shooting fish in a barrel. My concern is if the Iranians think outside the box. And catches us in the west by surprise someway.

Sohrab 11-30-2006 01:20 AM

Iran doesn't really have a conventional Navy, a few frigates and subs. Their job is to deploy as many mines as possible and use anti ship missiles against the USN. Neither of those jobs are particularly difficult. Iran is not going to just fight the USN in a symmetrical way that is retarded, and Iran isn't as retarded as some people here may believe.

Topmaul 02-11-2007 12:12 PM

The U.S. Navy would destroy that if Iran in about 45 minutes,

Cougar 02-11-2007 08:36 PM

Birmingham is onto something here. The fact is, that conventionally, the U.S, can easily defeat any other nation in the world. Even if it looks so weak in Iraq, that is solely because of political decisions, not because of its military's capabilities. We could easily transform Iraq into a big parking lot within a few hours, and so could we do with Iran.

But the problem is, many nations have noticed that. They wage unconventional war. In Israel we have seen that for years, it is the same situation: if the IDF were given the opportunity, they could bulldoze over the whole Palestinian mess in a few hours. The muslims, on the other hand, would never get far in any conventional war.

So they play guerilla war, like the Vietnamese did. And they have improved it by inventing suicide attackers.

Now there is a real threat in Birmingham's scenario: Like the army on the ground was badly prepared wor IED warfare in Iraq, the US Navy is not that prepared for similar warfare on the high seas. USS-Cole like suicide attacks on a grand scale could be a real threat. And that Iranians are willing to sacrifice a lot of people we have seen in the Iran-Iraq war. T

he US Navy then would be in the political dilemma that it would need to answer very forcefully, by bombing all the coastal areas of Iran to wipe out the staging points of these kinds of attacks and therefore claiming lives of "civilians." And who knows if our politicians would have the stomach for that.

Topmaul 02-11-2007 09:00 PM

The USS Cole was inport taking on fuel, she was s sitting duck, the crew was at lunch and the ship was in what is considered a friendly port.

Attacking a ship in port is one thing but try it at sea

I have been at sea for most of my career, of 21 years so I have some idea what I'm talking about.

Cougar 02-12-2007 05:09 AM

I am glad to hear that, I would hate the thought of our navy being vulnerable. So what do you think about this scenario:

Iran keeps a fleet of 500 very small speedboats, your run-of-the-mill drug smuggler boat from the carribean, loads them to the brim with explosives and staffs them with suicide crews and launches them against a US navy group operating near the Street of Hormuz. What is your prediction of their success?

Birmingham 02-12-2007 09:52 PM

Iran can have a failure rate of 99%, and the 5 speedboats that would get through would be enough to give the US Navy a black eye. The Iranians will not attack the US Navy in the Indian Ocean. The will attack in the more confinded waters of the Gulf. Do something like a Death Ride against the US carriers with what they have left of an airforce. In hopes of drawing air support and air cover from an indivigual ship off the Iranian coast. Then launch their speedboats in hopes of overhelming one ship. The Iranians thinking that sinking one ship would be enough to cause the American public to call for an end to attacks since they have show the US Navy is "vulnerable".
The thing is that the US Navy may not commit they ships to just a few miles off the Iranian coast in the case of a raid. The Iranian's can not go charging accross the Gulf without being shot like fish in a barrel. They need the Americans to accomadate them by moving to just off the Iranian coast. As they would have to if it was a true invassion.
Just like terror attacks on land, the Iranian's only have to be lucky once. And we in the West have to be vigilant all the time in the area if there is conflict.


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